JmOz Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 This has been placed here as it seemed the thing to do, even though the character is a Champions character he borrows a lot from Wuxia style cinimatics My question is on asian philosiphy and Ch'i, specificaly how does Ch'i interact with the inanimate world. The character has two powers especificaly that I am trying to determine if he should take a "Only vs living" type limitation on 1) Find Weakness: Essentialy he is seeing how Ch'i flows through a target and finding weak points to strike via that 2) +2 DCV (in a MP) with him watching how Ch'I flows around him and reacting to it with superhuman nimbleness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i Paging Drs. Surbrook, Alhazard, Hopcroft, and Foxx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchpad Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i Personally, I don't think he should take the lim with either ... as Chi (Ki, Ch'i) flows around and through most everything ... that's why some people can shatter objects with their fists and, in fiction at least, avoid most attacks by dancing around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i Personally' date=' I don't think he should take the lim with either ... as Chi (Ki, Ch'i) flows around and through most everything ... that's why some people can shatter objects with their fists and, in fiction at least, avoid most attacks by dancing around them.[/quote'] Thank you Visiting Surgeon Sketchpad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchpad Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i Thank you Visiting Surgeon Sketchpad. Not a problem Nurse Enforcer ... please treat with some latex and 300mg of Juju-Bees and then schedule them for a 12:00 in a few months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i Chi masters in films can smash iron bells and stone walls from a distance just by projecting their Chi. Real world believers in Chi think that it is key to object breaking. For the effects he wants to do, "only versus living" is not a valid limit. However, if he wanted a Dim Mak Death Touch (HKA with trigger or gradual effect, only versus living, sometimes purchased as an NND Does Body), that would fit into the genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamamura Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i I agree with Oddhat and Sketchpad on this, it wouldn't bbe appropriate on the attack unless it was the imfamous death touch. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i Depends on how realistic you want the Universe to be. In a classic Wuxia universe, there are no problems with using Inner Power to destroy objects. Or for a master to pull stunts such as lifting a huge metal urn filled to the brim with wine with one hand and then throwing it across a courtyard. Some of the more exotic Wuxia allow Inner Power to be treated almost like lasers/telekinesis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Omega Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i Depends on how realistic you want the Universe to be. In a classic Wuxia universe' date=' there are no problems with using Inner Power to destroy objects. Or for a master to pull stunts such as lifting a huge metal urn filled to the brim with wine with one hand and then throwing it across a courtyard. Some of the more exotic Wuxia allow Inner Power to be treated almost like lasers/telekinesis.[/quote'] Zu: Warriors of the Magic Mountain, StormRiders, etc etc. Though I could see limiting the power if he wanted to say the effect only works on disrupting the chi of a living being, then buying off the limitation as the character learns more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufea Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i Ch'i, Qi and the Starwars "Force" are pretty much the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i What they all said. If his attack was like the old D&D "Quivering Palm" then "only versus the living" is appropriate. Otherwise I'd say "no" to the limitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted April 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i Cool, I was more worried that the F/X would require the lims more than the otherway around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Rose Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i Based on some things I've read here and there, utilizing chi on an inanimate object should be easier in some regards. Granted, you can't strike a delicate balance point and knock down the house of cards that is a living being, but there isn't living chi getting in the way of finding a weak point. Then again, I like the idea of wuxia martial artists doing lots of property damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwolf Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i Another fictional example if Ch'i is when the warriors of legend confront Jack in "Big Trouble in Little China", they throw lightning bolts deflect bullets attack with supernatural speed, and fly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchpad Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Re: [Ninja Hero/Champions/Wuxia Question]: Ch'i Best example of Chi ... Jackie Chan Adventures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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