Midas Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense http://www.heliograph.com/trmgs/trmgs2/adventuress.shtml For everyone's consideration. Midas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowcat1313 Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense the way this thread was turning, I began to wonder if there was a typo, and we were disccussing Marital Arts styles Sutra Jitsu? or is it Sutra Do not sure about maneuvers, but gotta have contortionist and probably double jointed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlHazred Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense http://www.heliograph.com/trmgs/trmgs2/adventuress.shtml For everyone's consideration. Midas Whalebone or steel stays sandwiched in between sail canvas layers sounds like decent armor value in Hero System terms. I'd consider a whalebone-stay corset as DEF 2 or 3, with a steel-stay corset as maybe DEF 3 or 4, depending on construction. From the images accompanying the article, I'd say it covers Hit Locations 11 to 13. Not sure how much one weighs, but you could give it a Mass Limitation and Real Armor as well as IIF. Going with the conservative DEF figures, you're talking: Whalebone-stay Corset: Armor 2 PD/2 ED; IIF (corset; -1/4), Real Armor (-1/4), Mass (-1), Sectional Defenses (Hit Locations 11-13; -1). Real cost: 2 points. Steel-stay Corset: Armor 3 PD/3 ED; IIF (corset; -1/4), Real Armor (-1/4), Mass (-1), Sectional Defenses (Hit Locations 11-13; -1). Real cost: 3 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense Whalebone or steel stays sandwiched in between sail canvas layers sounds like decent armor value in Hero System terms. I'd consider a whalebone-stay corset as DEF 2 or 3, with a steel-stay corset as maybe DEF 3 or 4, depending on construction. From the images accompanying the article, I'd say it covers Hit Locations 11 to 13. Not sure how much one weighs, but you could give it a Mass Limitation and Real Armor as well as IIF. Going with the conservative DEF figures, you're talking: Whalebone-stay Corset: Armor 2 PD/2 ED; IIF (corset; -1/4), Real Armor (-1/4), Mass (-1), Sectional Defenses (Hit Locations 11-13; -1). Real cost: 2 points. Steel-stay Corset: Armor 3 PD/3 ED; IIF (corset; -1/4), Real Armor (-1/4), Mass (-1), Sectional Defenses (Hit Locations 11-13; -1). Real cost: 3 points. Excellent design. Just to complicate the things, for principles of discussion, how about this? In the news article above, I don't know that corsets even qualify as foci (a gang of barbarians were defeated in removing one). And re the discussion above, how about some type of drain of resources? Could a corset be constructed as a force field, costing END all the time worn? This would lead to calculating END in non combat time, and other complications however. Another thing. If you added in panniers and/or bustles, would that extend the coverage? They are really just pillows, but they would work quite well as regular PD. Comments on my ruminations? Midas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJackBrass Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense You know, this all seems terribly complicated. Standard self-defence for women through the ages has generally been a swift kick to the bloke's knackers, which I think is already covered in the rules... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monster Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Re: Victorian Women's Art of Self Defense And don't forget the huge COncealment modifiers for hiding weapons under those skirts... "Dear me, where ever did you get that trench mortar?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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