keithcurtis Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Oh yes, Canticle is a definite classic. Stay away from the "sequels" however. The first was a masterpiece; the others are afterthoughs. Keith "From the place of Ground Zero... O Lord deliver us" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Thaddeus Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Palladium also has a game called "After the Bomb". I don't have it, but it sounds like a good take on the post-apocolypse theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 For a strange take on post-apoc life, check out Niven and Pournelle's Mote In God's Eye. (SPOILERS... aw, hell, the book's been out for over 20 years!) The alien race was trapped in their single system for millions of years, and was resigned to a never-ending series of Cycles, in which civilization fell into savagery over... and over... and over... due to continuous population pressure, because the aliens have to breed or die - literally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwolf Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Another great classic is the novel "Alas Babylon" by Pat Frank. I am probably dating myself but this was required reading for H.S. students back in the 70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmaster Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Twilight 2000 is being reprinted by Marc Miller's Far Future Enterprises, the same company is reprinting the Classic Traveller "little black books" http://www.farfuture.net/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Great list, C_Zeree! Thanks for all the hard work. Keith "Captain Kudos" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Nuclear A Boy and His Dog, Harlan Ellison (Also a movie) Virus (maybe Biological) I am Legend, Richard Matheson (basis for the movie, Omega Man, also a movie starring Vincent Price that I _think_ was called I am Legend.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Originally posted by allen Nuclear A Boy and His Dog, Harlan Ellison (Also a movie) Virus (maybe Biological) I am Legend, Richard Matheson (basis for the movie, Omega Man, also a movie starring Vincent Price that I _think_ was called I am Legend.) I think the Vincent Price movie had the unfortunate title of "The Last Man on Earth." Keith "A pocket lisp" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Book: "World Enough, and Time"? Keith "?" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Cross Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Apocalypse Hero Two classic novels that have not been mentioned here are John Wyndham's Day of The Triffids,The Chrysalids & The Kraken Wakes (though in the last book humanity is decimated,but civilisation still survives).Oh,and by the way,Damnation Alley was originally a novel-most people consider the movie to be a bastardization of the original book.I also cannot believe that Harlan Ellison's A Boy and his Dog wasn't mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude2371 Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 My suggestions Books, War: Wingman by Mack Maloney (book series); post-war where the US lost and was broken up into different areas. Details a new war for independence. Mind candy in a lot of respects, and it did get a little silly in the last 2-3 books. The Guardians, not sure on the author (series); another post-war book with a group of soldiers wandering about, rebuilding America, or so I'm assuming. I have a couple of the books, but haven't read them as yet. Just a couple of suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C_Zeree Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 More notes. Expect update around lunch PST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Re: Apocalypse Hero Originally posted by Southern Cross Oh,and by the way,Damnation Alley was originally a novel-most people consider the movie to be a bastardization of the original book. The movie was pretty, well, "B", admittedly, but the book wasn't exactly high literature either.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C_Zeree Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Updated Things I'm not sure on: Keith I could not find the book "World Enough, and Time," found some research projects and reports, but didn't think you were referring to them. tengu does this book look right? The Guardians by Ewell Greeson Where to put Day of the Triffids or Kraken Wakes. I renamed the Insect section to a Creature section and placed them there. Kraken fits, but in Triffids people go blind from a passing commet. Another buuuuut, the triffids are hostile plants, so I don't know. I am Legend - Its about vampires feeding on people so I placed it undead. I've got to go to the library and pick up some books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Originally posted by keithcurtis I think the Vincent Price movie had the unfortunate title of "The Last Man on Earth." Keith "A pocket lisp" Curtis Yup, that's the one... Allen "Thanks for the assist" Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude2371 Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Nope, that's not the book... Found one of the series that I'm talking about. It's The Guardians, by Richard Austin. The back blurb reads like this: From the nuclear devastation of World War III rose the Guardians. Guerilla freedom fighters in a United States fallen prey to invading forces. They are the last reminder of what America stood for -- and the last hope of what America can be once more. Now granted, this series was published in the mid to late 80's, so you can guess as to how good it would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C_Zeree Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Originally posted by tengu Now granted, this series was published in the mid to late 80's, so you can guess as to how good it would be. Did I/we say it had to be a good resource? Besides personal tastes may vary. I'm just putting together a big list of stuff. I think I'l put a warning sign on the list, use at your own risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Originally posted by C_Zeree Did I/we say it had to be a good resource? Besides personal tastes may vary. I'm just putting together a big list of stuff. I think I'l put a warning sign on the list, use at your own risk. In light of this... Post Nuclear Holocaust The Horseclans Series, Robert Adams. Definitely slap a warning label on that one. (Although I admit I've read something like 16 of them.) There's also a GURPS supplement. Also Six-String Samurai, movie It's a parody made by someone who likely loved the genre (and Buddy Holly too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 Re: Updated Originally posted by C_Zeree Things I'm not sure on: Keith I could not find the book "World Enough, and Time," found some research projects and reports, but didn't think you were referring to them. Del Rey 1980, by James Kahn. Spot illustrations, cover and map by Jill Alden Littlewood It takes place in a distant future post-apoc California. It has a definite fantasy feel to it, so I'd put it into whatever category something like "Thundarr" would go under, but a little darker. IDR what caused the apocalypse, but a quick scan seems to indicate a nuclear war and subsequent ice age. There is also some flooding involved, the map of California plainly shows "Port Fresno." Keith "Hey, I've got beachfront property!" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 Originally posted by Starwolf Another great classic is the novel "Alas Babylon" by Pat Frank. I am probably dating myself but this was required reading for H.S. students back in the 70s. I read that in one day. I took a science fiction and film appreciation elective without realizing it was not college prep. The rest of the class took six weeks to finish it and over half flunked a simple plot question test. I made myself re-read it the day before the test so I would be ready, but I needn't have bothered. I could have gotten a passing grade wiithout ever having read it at all. Keith "What a waste of a cool elective" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 I'm running a online Gamma Hero Campaign now over at the roleplayers realm. http://theroleplayersrealm.com/champions/board9/ It's been fun so far. I also have a few things up on my site. Will be working on others as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C_Zeree Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 Minor update today. These apocalyptic people like to have there settings in California. Why I ask? Ca is post apocalyptic enough if you live in the Mojave desert... So I was thinking. If the end of the world is upon a world where super heroes exist, what would they do as the world was coming down around them? Villains and heroes might unite. Some heores might just say, "Screw it," survivial of the fittest, come to the dark side... Of course many would try to aid where they could. They would become even more visible, because they could protect and help much more than the government and its officials with its resources spread so thin. Any thoughts on the matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr.Unpossible Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 The movie "Things to Come" I think, personally at least is an excellent peek at a post apocalypse world. And the following rise of man. Its VERY preachy though, I mean really really preachy. It was done prior to World War II. And if I'm not mistaken is taken from the works of George Orwell. I think the montage for the troops and tanks rolling off to war, where in the beginning there WWII tech. Then as the years roll by they advance to sort of 195o's Buck Rogers weapons, then as the war drags on, they get more ragged looking, then no vehicles, then no standard uniforms, then no army at all, then the movie starts in the future in a ruined village. To me at least, its one of the great movie sequences of all time. http://www.stomptokyo.com/badmoviereport/things2come.html Is a bit of a harsh review of the film. But about mid way down the page is a pic of the troops marching off to war. In the montage sequence I was mentioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr.Unpossible Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 Keith "the sequals pale" Curtis . Have you read Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0553107046/qid=1052520645/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/103-5098430-5680636?v=glance&s=books I was hoping it would be a good read. A look at the life of the "Savages" in the setting of a Canticle for Leibowitz. I loved the first book. Especially the focus on the Catholic Church. It really added to the Dark Ages feel after the apocalypse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithcurtis Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 Originally posted by Dr.Unpossible Keith "the sequals pale" Curtis . Have you read Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0553107046/qid=1052520645/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/103-5098430-5680636?v=glance&s=books I was hoping it would be a good read. A look at the life of the "Savages" in the setting of a Canticle for Leibowitz. I loved the first book. Especially the focus on the Catholic Church. It really added to the Dark Ages feel after the apocalypse. Yes, I waded through it. It might have been a good enough book in itself, but it had none of the strong themes of the original. I felt it was ultimately "just a story". Canticle made me think on nearly every page. I had heard there was a third book, but I know nothing about it. BTW, have you ever heard the radio drama adaptation? Really first class job, that. They even had a college chant group do all of the canticles and such. Keith "Lucifer has fallen" Curtis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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