Logan D. Hurricanes Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures Greatest. Tag team. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodstone Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures ... Who is that Centauri-wannabe? Giorgio A. Tsoukalos I have it on good authority that he's actually a pretty cool, if eccentric, dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterVimes Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures ... That is totally legit? Judge for yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures "Pyramids? Sophisticated calendars? South American and African folks being more technically sophisticated than Europeans of the same period? Inconceivable! Must have been aliens! That's WAY more plausible!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterVimes Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures "Pyramids? Sophisticated calendars? South American and African folks being more technically sophisticated than Europeans of the same period? Inconceivable! Must have been aliens! That's WAY more plausible!" See. Totally legit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Hawk Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures "Pyramids? Sophisticated calendars? South American and African folks being more technically sophisticated than Europeans of the same period? Inconceivable! Must have been aliens! That's WAY more plausible!" Ah, yes, the Von Danikan "Thier ancestors, the dummies, needed outside help" arguement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures People who think that are the dummies who need help from aliens, because they sure haven't learned anything from their fellow humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodstone Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures People who think that are the dummies who need help from aliens' date=' because they sure haven't learned anything from their fellow humans.[/quote'] I don't know that I want to thread derail and I'm in no way invested in the ancient aliens theories. In fact, I'm not actually well read enough on the subject to really defend it on any level as most of my information comes from listening to other folks talk about it... But I do know that a significant contributor to many of the ancient alien theories stems from the fact that there are things that (allegedly) still cannot really be replicated by modern technology. One place of note that comes to mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumapunku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures George Clinton's gonna play the Great Pyramids? funkadelic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterVimes Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures I don't know that I want to thread derail and I'm in no way invested in the ancient aliens theories. In fact, I'm not actually well read enough on the subject to really defend it on any level as most of my information comes from listening to other folks talk about it... But I do know that a significant contributor to many of the ancient alien theories stems from the fact that there are things that (allegedly) still cannot really be replicated by modern technology. One place of note that comes to mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumapunku I hope there are always things that we can't explain, but (to channel Neil deGrasse Tyson), throughout history there have always been things we can't explain and then we could. To lay the mysteries of the universe at the feet of god, aliens, or the chupacabra means that when you figure it all out with science, that you placed a limit on the thing you thought was the answer. It makes that other belief smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrix3 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures I don't know that I want to thread derail and I'm in no way invested in the ancient aliens theories. In fact, I'm not actually well read enough on the subject to really defend it on any level as most of my information comes from listening to other folks talk about it... But I do know that a significant contributor to many of the ancient alien theories stems from the fact that there are things that (allegedly) still cannot really be replicated by modern technology. One place of note that comes to mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumapunku You would be absolutely amazed at what a large group of highly-motivated people can do when they put their minds into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrix3 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures One place of note that comes to mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumapunku I find it easier to believe that the Pumapunku people had developed the tooling and geometry necessary to build this themselves, than space aliens coming down from the sky to do it for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures How do I rep this linebacker person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures You would be absolutely amazed at what a large group of highly-motivated people can do when they put their minds into it. Not to mention when they have a lot of time to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures So you can see that Mercury, Venus and Saturn form some sort of straight-ish line when viewed from Cairo, so I'm inclined to believe that Dave is right the globs of light above the pyramids are planets. Edit: Panel 4: Bit later in the day, viewed from Australia, more clearly shows Mercury, Venus and Saturn alignment Mercury, Venus, Saturn, and Spica are in a roughly "straight", evenly spaced arc, and if the three objects are supposed to be Venus, Saturn, and Spica that would make sense because Spica is often (if inaccurately) portrayed as being that blue. But the angle with respect to the horizon is wrong for 30 degrees north. You would need to be much further south (like 50 or 60 degrees S) to get the shallow angle between the "stars" and the horizon as portrayed. At Giza the arc joining the objects is much closer to being perpendicular to the horizon than close to parallel with the horizon as shown, at least when the objects are rising (which is what this must be with Spica being highest in the sky as shown). So move those pyramids to the coast of Antarctica and you can get the image in real life in about 6-7 months! EDIT: I didn't even look at the site itself, whether the pyramids are arranged so that one could position one's self right to get the objects "over" the pyramid peaks. That's a geography question, not an astronomy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures I don't know that I want to thread derail and I'm in no way invested in the ancient aliens theories. In fact, I'm not actually well read enough on the subject to really defend it on any level as most of my information comes from listening to other folks talk about it... But I do know that a significant contributor to many of the ancient alien theories stems from the fact that there are things that (allegedly) still cannot really be replicated by modern technology. One place of note that comes to mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumapunku Unless I'm missing something here, they worked in red sandstone (a relatively soft material), and used techniques that resemble those used in the Parthenon in Athens to reinforce their stonework (marble, also a relatively soft material). JoeG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures Ah' date=' yes, the Von Danikan "Their ancestors, the dummies, needed outside help" argument.[/quote'] Does that make it the ultimate "Argument from Ignorance" logical fallacy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures It is one of the great ironies ... perhaps even tragedies ... that Eric von Daniken and Frank Drake were featured separately on the same episode of an old TV game show, I think To Tell The Truth (but possibly What's My Line). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures Giorgio A. Tsoukalos I have it on good authority that he's actually a pretty cool, if eccentric, dude. Tsoukalos is a 1998 graduate of Ithaca College in Ithaca' date=' New York, with a degree in [b']sports information and communication[/b]. ... Why is he on History Channel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures ... Why is he on History Channel? You might as well ask why Ancient Aliens is on the History Channel. ... Say, why IS Ancient Aliens on the History Channel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures Maybe they're Teaching The Controversy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures ... Why is he on History Channel? Because the History Channel has become the "History" Channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Re: "Neat" Pictures Say, why IS Ancient Aliens on the History Channel? 'Cause they're ANCIENT Aliens as opposed to "Recent Aliens"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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