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Also to "freeze the balls off a brass monkey" is referred to as a nautical term. The brass monkey is a 9-pipped brass cannon ball holder; when it got cold enough' date=' the metal contracted and the balls wouldn't be as stable, and would roll off. Thus, cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey. I can't vouch for the accuracy of either of these, but they do add a definate flavor.[/quote']

I've heard this expression before. One of my lifetime ambitions as a physics instructor is to assign the problem of computing the temperature at which the brass monkey's balls are frozen off. I haven't worked this out myself yet, though I set up the problem once.

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Well, you're faced with two key elements. The diameter of the pips on the monkey and their total contraction, against the slower-contracting lead of the cannon balls and their stabilization based on the monkey proper. The monkey has to contract faster and more significantly than the cannon balls, and then you have to calculate the total area the cannons are covering, to reach ye olde critical mass.

 

Do I understand the problem properly? Or am I missing something (other than the appropriate words)?

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I've heard this expression before. One of my lifetime ambitions as a physics instructor is to assign the problem of computing the temperature at which the brass monkey's balls are frozen off. I haven't worked this out myself yet' date=' though I set up the problem once.[/quote']

Really? My ambition was to make a banana reach critical mass. I wanted to bombard it with enough neutrons until it acheived a nuclear reaction :)

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Well, my brass-monkey ambition is about as adventurous as they let you get in a first-year physics course. Neutrons are upper-division. :rolleyes:

 

And I think cannonballs were cast iron, not lead. Minor detail, probably.

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Oh' date=' on the subject of Tall Ships (I don't even know how I got to Ravenloft, but I want to contribute anyway). There's a bunch of sites if you do a Google search for "Man o' War" and "Ships of the Line" that cover basic masts & rigging for your nomenclature. I note this because you get much more flavor from using the terms "F'ocstle" and "Jiggermast" than simply "Bow," and "the sail on the front of the boat."[/quote']

"Man o' War" is more likely to get you sites about horse-racing. ;)

 

Also' date=' if you're building Ships of the Line, remember that they come in 6 basic varieties, from "1st ship of the line" to "6th ship of the line." The largest, the Man o' Wars, were multi-deck 100+ cannon affairs, with crews upwards of a six hundred (or easily more) men, most of whom were tired and bitter all the time.[/quote']

Shike019 was asking about galleons. This terminology is about two centuries too late, since it came in at about the tail end of the 18th century.

 

There's also a site about Yachting that covers "shipman's terms" including "the whole nine yards" - which if you take their definition' date=' means dropping sail on all three yard-arms across all three masts, hence "the whole nine yards."[/quote']

Probably wrong, as it is generally considered to come from some tailoring/clothes-related source; there is some disagreement as to its exact provenance, though.

 

Also to "freeze the balls off a brass monkey" is referred to as a nautical term. The brass monkey is a 9-pipped brass cannon ball holder; when it got cold enough' date=' the metal contracted and the balls wouldn't be as stable, and would roll off. Thus, cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey. I can't vouch for the accuracy of either of these, but they do add a definate flavor.[/quote']

Absolutely false. There was no piece of shipboard equipment called a monkey (though the persons responsible for moving powder and shot to the cannons were called powder monkeys); not, at least, until after this false and euphemistic tale sprang up. The balls refered to are the testicles. It's merely a hyperbolical expansion on "cold enough to freeze your balls off," an expression I've heard often enough.

 

He also covers "shake a leg" - now just ask yourself "who's leg" and you've got the idea. Directly related is "son of a gun" for a child born aboard ship.

Oh dear, even more folk etymology. Sigh.

 

No, "shake a leg" merely means to get your feet (and legs) moving; it has nothing to do with shaking your penis after urinating. And "son of a gun" was not the response of some NCO when asked who was the father of a bastard baby found hidden away on board ship; it's simply a euphemism for "son of a wh0re" that has the "advantage" of rhyming. BTW, "son of a b1tch" is itself a euphemism.

 

I also suggest you know how to keel-haul people.

Always a useful skill. :snicker:

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Horatio Hornblower

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Hornblower

 

Age of Sail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_sail

 

Ship of the line

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_the_line

 

Piracy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate

 

List of pirates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pirates

 

Piracy in the Caribbean

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_in_the_Caribbean#Boysie_Singh_.26mdash.3B_a_20th_Century_Pirate

 

Rating system of the Royal Navy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rating_system_of_the_Royal_Navy

 

Best Scale Models

http://www.bestscalemodels.com/cgi-bin/cart/store.cgi

 

Frigate - Google Images Search

http://images.google.ca/images?q=Frigate&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

 

 

Start with the "Name" and "Class" of Ship. Then use "Deck Plans", "Models", and Google Images.

 

More Later

 

QM

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http://www.all-model.com

 

Selection of downloadable ship plans. I highly recommend 'Roter Lowe' in the freebie section - had the images enlarged and printed to A0 size, then laminated, for my '7th Sea' campaigns. The result is BEAUTIFUL, and close enough to 25mm scale as to make no differance at all.

 

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http://www.burningsea.com

 

'Pirates of the Burning Sea' is a very interesting looking MMORPG. Check 'Screenshots' and 'Ship Info' (in the 'Game Info' section) for exterior images of a wide range of sailing vessels, from yachts and sloops to galleons and xebecs to Napoleonic frigates. No proper deckplans as such, but worth a look.

 

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Incidentally, does anybody knows of where one can find deckplans of a Bao Chuan (Chinese "Treasure Ship" of the early 1400s)?

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Basil: I just said they add flavor. I know better than to believe anything I read on the internet. And 'shake a leg' he refers to is prostitutes, to know who's in which hammock. Again, all great for flavor, and I did import the brass monkey to my fantasy game because it's cooler that way. ;) I do appreciate the feedback, though, I am (hopefully obviously) not trying to mislead anyone.

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Basil: I just said they add flavor. I know better than to believe anything I read on the internet. And 'shake a leg' he refers to is prostitutes' date=' to know who's in which hammock. Again, all great for flavor, and I did import the brass monkey to my fantasy game because it's cooler that way. ;) I do appreciate the feedback, though, I am (hopefully obviously) not trying to mislead anyone.[/quote']

Sorry If I came across harsher than I intended. :o It's just that false derivations of sayings are a sore point with me.:mad:

 

BTW, the "leg instead of penis" false derivation for "shake a leg" is one I've heard/read elsewhere. :winkgrin:

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Probably wrong' date=' as it is generally considered to come from some tailoring/clothes-related source; there is some disagreement as to its exact provenance, though.[/quote']

 

 

Not to totally hijack the thread but I thought "The whole nine yards" was in referrence to the length of a belt of ammunition. When you were told to 'give 'em the whole nine yards,' it meant to unload all of your ammo on the enemy.

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