Cygnia Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Still, if V truly does go down the slippery slope him/herself, where will that leave Belkar? A fight to the death between the two as the lesser of two evils? A partnership? More importantly, where will that leave the OotS if two of its members become/stay willfully evil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick If V goes bad and joins up with Beklar, there could be a bad joke about Darth Vader & Luke in our future. But I doubt it -- it'd be really far-fetched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I, for one, have no wish to know more about Belkar's motivations, back story and future acts. He's a serial killer, for Heaven's sake, most likely explained by a serious psychosexual deviation modifying an equally severe antisocial personality disorder. Even his relationship with Mr. Scruffy probably can't be taken any further, because while people like Belkar have pets in real life, those pets rarely have happy endings. As long as we choose not to dwell on those things, he's funny. But how can you develop the character without going there? And why, exactly, hasn't he joined up with Xykon yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I, for one, have no wish to know more about Belkar's motivations, back story and future acts. He's a serial killer, for Heaven's sake, most likely explained by a serious psychosexual deviation modifying an equally severe antisocial personality disorder. Even his relationship with Mr. Scruffy probably can't be taken any further, because while people like Belkar have pets in real life, those pets rarely have happy endings. As long as we choose not to dwell on those things, he's funny. But how can you develop the character without going there? And why, exactly, hasn't he joined up with Xykon yet? Maybe Banjo forbids it. I for one have no problems keeping Belkar around. He's a pretty classic archtype (playerwise)... the guy who's playing just to kill & loot stuff and doesn't care about the in game consequences or plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teh bunneh Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick He's a serial killer' date=' for Heaven's sake, most likely explained by a serious psychosexual deviation modifying an equally severe antisocial personality disorder. [/quote'] What's not to love? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I, for one, have no wish to know more about Belkar's motivations, back story and future acts. He's a serial killer, for Heaven's sake, most likely explained by a serious psychosexual deviation modifying an equally severe antisocial personality disorder. Even his relationship with Mr. Scruffy probably can't be taken any further, because while people like Belkar have pets in real life, those pets rarely have happy endings. As long as we choose not to dwell on those things, he's funny. But how can you develop the character without going there? And why, exactly, hasn't he joined up with Xykon yet? Perhaps he's not truly evil, but just Chaotic Neutral? I point to the fact that in strip # 281, he had the opportunity to kill the paladin that was hounding them while she was unconscious. Instead, he waited around for her to wake up so they could continue their battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Perhaps he's not truly evil' date=' but just Chaotic Neutral? I point to the fact that in strip # 281, he had the opportunity to kill the paladin that was hounding them while she was unconscious. Instead, he waited around for her to wake up so they could continue their battle. Yes, he's evil. He didn't leave her alive because he has scruples. He left her alive because he likes a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Yes' date=' he's evil. He didn't leave her alive because he has scruples. He left her alive because he likes a fight.[/quote'] And also because he wanted to cause her to become a fallen paladin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garou Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick New one is up. In order to make it in this world, I need to pretend to have character growth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmakaze Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Yeah, that was meta meta in a weird way... Oddly, this reminds me of a player I had trouble with once. He was constitutionally incapable of playing a good alignment, frequently to the detriment of the party. When I took over running for the group, I had a flash of inspiration and told him that his character was secretly working for the villains and had infiltrated the group - but he had to be sure not to tip off the other PCs (or players). As long as he knew in his heart that his character was evil, he could quit with the disruptive blatant amoral behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcan Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I, for one, have no wish to know more about Belkar's motivations, back story and future acts. He's a serial killer, for Heaven's sake, most likely explained by a serious psychosexual deviation modifying an equally severe antisocial personality disorder. Even his relationship with Mr. Scruffy probably can't be taken any further, because while people like Belkar have pets in real life, those pets rarely have happy endings. As long as we choose not to dwell on those things, he's funny. But how can you develop the character without going there? And why, exactly, hasn't he joined up with Xykon yet? Just because one is evil doesn't mean one doesn't have friends... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick New one is up. In order to make it in this world, I need to pretend to have character growth! I am both amused and appalled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I would totally buy an "Order of the Stick" playing card deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick The frightening thing is, I know people who follow that particular enlightenment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoutybloke Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Yes, that's what makes it funny. It's a brilliant comic observation of the sociopathic mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I would totally buy an "Order of the Stick" playing card deck. I woud buy the miniatures of the characters. They'd go well with the KODT minis I already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Well there is a slim possibility that by playing the game he comes around to the good side of thinking. But... I don't really want that to happen, let alone think it will. to me, Belkar is clearly played by guys I know. I'm not terribly fond of them. I am fond of him because, he basically gets handled well and it inspires me on how to deal with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I wonder what will happen if/when the rest of the OotS reads this world's version of the Geek Social Fallacies though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick *sinkers* Role-play at role-playing. I love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Belkar is clearly played by guys I know. This is why I don't get bent out of shape about Belkar's actions, or why the rest of the OotS keep him around...he's some gamer's power fantasy, and he has the PC light shining on him. If he does reform, it will (or should) be along the lines of the power-gamer who is forced into having a backstory: (other member of the Order): "Belkar, you can't kill him...he looks and acts just like your foster father, who took you in as a child and raised you as his own." Belkar (in a flat, stilted voice): "Ah yes, my poor, sainted foster dad. I could never harm anyone who so reminds me of him. I'll get you later, you rat ba*d..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick That "faking sincerity" bit is [a] pretty useful trick, too :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Now Hayley's in a pickle. Seriously, I could never understand that "hold the pickle" thing, either. Kudos to Crystal for figuring it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Wow...now we know why Good so often triumphs... because Evil is just full of idiots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Wow. I want Crystal for my nemesis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNakagawa Posted November 16, 2008 Report Share Posted November 16, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Perhaps he's not truly evil' date=' but just Chaotic Neutral? I point to the fact that in strip # 281, he had the opportunity to kill the paladin that was hounding them while she was unconscious. Instead, he waited around for her to wake up so they could continue their battle. No, he's evil. Strip #489 actually charted Belkar's Evil-ness measured in KiloNazis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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