Cygnia Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick So, meanwhile is this a case of Lawful Stupid or Stupid Good for Celia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Fear her minty wrath! Now that's funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick So' date=' meanwhile is this a case of Lawful Stupid or Stupid Good for Celia?[/quote'] Stupid Good. Paladins aren't pacifists. That Celia suddenly is, after a lifetime in a world where life is cheap and death a change of address, is annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkmanDan Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Stupid Good. Paladins aren't pacifists. That Celia suddenly is' date=' after a lifetime in a world where life is cheap and death a change of address, is annoying.[/quote'] Then again, she's been portrayed as pretty naive the entire time. She started off hanging out in Dorukan's dungeon, not really doing anything, then went to law school. It's been pretty consistently displayed that she's clueless, not knowing that the OOtS can't shoot lightning out of their fingers, for example. She gave Roy a talisman he couldn't break, and was surprised when Haley couldn't feel magic by the tingling in her teeth. I don't have any problems with her acting that way, as it's really consistent with how she's acted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I admit, I do think Celia's nativity is going beyond humorous and starting to get annoying, at least a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick If she survives this, maybe she'll consider investing in better Crowd Control spells/defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZilla Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick If she survives this' date=' maybe she'll consider investing in better Crowd Control spells/defenses.[/quote'] Crowd Control -- like Fireball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Crowd Control -- like Fireball? Heh. But if she's serious about wanting to role-play a total pacifist, pack wands of Polymorph Other or Sleep or Hold Person. Or Tanglefoot bags. Dunno if there's a D&D equivalent of the mini-Cyclone spell or Entangling Roots that WoW Druids can cast, but there's another option. Boom. Sentient mook challenges are overcome without betraying your pacifist principles (ergo XP gained without killing) and without being a detriment to the rest of the group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal_sage Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Heh. But if she's serious about wanting to role-play a total pacifist, pack wands of Polymorph Other or Sleep or Hold Person. Or Tanglefoot bags. Dunno if there's a D&D equivalent of the mini-Cyclone spell or Entangling Roots that WoW Druids can cast, but there's another option. Boom. Sentient mook challenges are overcome without betraying your pacifist principles (ergo XP gained without killing) and without being a detriment to the rest of the group. true. although i had a pacifist cleric/abjurist wizard (gave up necromancy and evocation) who got by well with mostly just abjuration spells, heal spells, and hefty use of the "aid other" action to boost allies AC. the only damage spells that she packed only worked against undead. she was devoted to Hod, the norse god of Cold and Mercy. her twin sister, on the other hand, was a evoker wizard/palidin devoted to Odin, who was the exact opposite and blew up everything... sometimes twice. my character also had several vows from the Book of Exalted Deeds, most notably Poverty and Nonviolence. so i could not have packed anything other than my walking stick and the clothes on my back. that game kicked so much tail... *sage waxes nostolgic...* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Cross Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I'm waiting for Hayley to point out to Celia that Roy being turned into a bone golem & all the deaths in Cliffport are her fault,for being stupid enough to not listen to Hayley in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Could be a long wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualplayer Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Guys, guys, Celia is a GMPC and it's Haley's turn to shine. If Rich went all Belkarific with Celia's powers she would mop up the place with the Thieves Guild and there would be nothing left but disgruntled players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal_sage Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Guys' date=' guys, Celia is a GMPC and it's Haley's turn to shine. If Rich went all Belkarific with Celia's powers she would mop up the place with the Thieves Guild and there would be nothing left but disgruntled players.[/quote'] very true. i know i keep my GMPCs on a very short leash, and often have something "important to them" come up right around the time something big will happen, to keep them from interfering to much in the fight. or have them "stay behind to guard the camp" or "find another way around" or "ugh, that guy is my worst enemy evar, i must duel him to the exclusion of all the cool stuff you guys are doing" or something like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick New one is up: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0616.html Team player Belkar frightens me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick New one is up: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0616.html Team player Belkar frightens me. Ayup. I wonder how long this will last. "I'm gonna go find my cat." And seriously, that was the tail end of a rockin compound insult. Er...ehem. On the other hand, the battle with Miko showed us that Belkar always enjoyed inflicting pain on multiple levels; nice to see him building on that side of his personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Belkar's ability to inflict emotional and psychological pain is almost on par with his ability to commit mass-murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualplayer Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick I had honestly forgotten just how much joy of OotS was embodied in Belkar. Now if Durkon can just show up and slip Roy some skin.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Team player Belkar frightens me. Heck yes. I'm taking down notes... this has to be usable material for an NPC in one campaign or another.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Kill-stealing? Ganking? Has Beklar been playing WOW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Kill-stealing? Ganking? Has Beklar been playing WOW? It's a nod to 4th ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teh bunneh Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Whassa "axiomatic" weapon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Whassa "axiomatic" weapon? Deals damage against Unlawful beings, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick D&D has magical weapons with minty freshness now? Sometimes I'm glad I bailed out on the system when I did (Which was BEFORE anyone ever heard of "THAC0" an idea I understand has already come and gone. Whatever it meant.) Lucius Alexander And a +5 Holy Palindromedary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maur Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick Kill-stealing? Ganking? Has Beklar been playing WOW? You can't kill-steal in WoW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Order of the Stick D&D has magical weapons with minty freshness now? Not to my knowledge. It does have weapons that deliver a jolt of energy damage when they hit, including cold damage, which is what the strip appears to be using. (Which was BEFORE anyone ever heard of "THAC0" an idea I understand has already come and gone. Whatever it meant.) "To hit AC 0". Someone realized that the 1e To Hit charts could be reduced to simply knowing the number required to hit an armor class of 0, from which you could simply subtract the target's AC to determine the number you needed to hit. It was coupled with removal of the repetitive 20's on the chart. Reducing the five charts used historically with a one liner modified based on class, level and hit dice was, in my view, a step forward. I don't recall whether that was the point where "natural 20 always hits" was introduced to replace the old chart concept that 20 was reiterated 6 times, or if it simply required you have a 22 modified roll if that was what was required to hit the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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