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Re: Storn's Art & Characters thread.

 

Do they define "risque" anywhere?

 

Maybe this would be a good topic for a different thread or perhaps you could find out more by reviewing that site yourself. Nothing personal, but on this thread, I'd like to see Storn's art and characters or hear about Storn.

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Maybe this would be a good topic for a different thread or perhaps you could find out more by reviewing that site yourself. Nothing personal' date=' but on this thread, I'd like to see Storn's art and characters or hear about Storn.[/quote']

Speak for yourself, I wanna talk about porn.

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but on this thread' date=' I'd like to see Storn's art and characters or hear about Storn.[/quote']

 

Pshaw!

 

Thread highjacking is a time honoured profession.

 

I'm sure there is always someone that would prefer to keep each thread along its original topic. Ain't gon' happen.

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It's interesting to see what Storn comes up with. I just sent him a few sentences on each of the characters I wanted illustrated and forgot to include the character sheets.

 

My player really loved the work he did on the Blue Ray (though right now the suit has been stolen by a VIPER weapons technician who will be threatening to disrupt the Gulf Stream using an alien coolant recovered in an earlier adventure).

 

The illustration of the Black Swan, a member of the Pack, is way different from what I expected. Not a bad thing, but I did kindly ask Storn to make some changes.

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It's interesting to see what Storn comes up with. I just sent him a few sentences on each of the characters I wanted illustrated and forgot to include the character sheets.

 

My player really loved the work he did on the Blue Ray (though right now the suit has been stolen by a VIPER weapons technician who will be threatening to disrupt the Gulf Stream using an alien coolant recovered in an earlier adventure).

 

The illustration of the Black Swan, a member of the Pack, is way different from what I expected. Not a bad thing, but I did kindly ask Storn to make some changes.

 

Here are the changes on Black Swan, went a different direction with pose (torso shot as opposed to head to toe):

 

BlackSwanIIloRes.jpg

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*whew*. Thought for a second the new direction was legless :D

.....that's IT! An Amputee Martial Artist! THAT'S what my new villain team has been missing! Thank you!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*It is The Templar's sincerest wish that no amputees, relatives or friends of amputees are offended by the light tone of this post. This also includes owners of three-legged dogs messed up enough to name them "Tripod" or "Lucky."*

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Here are the changes on Black Swan, went a different direction with pose (torso shot as opposed to head to toe):

 

BlackSwanIIloRes.jpg

 

Yeah, this is really awesome. It's far sexier and more dynamic. She's a potential love interest for The Blue Ray, but she's on the wrong side of the law.

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Re: Storn's Art & Characters thread.

 

Apr 20th, '06 06:54 AM

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that is a really freaky mask

 

Yeah it kind of reminds me of Kyle Rayner's mask from his original Green Lantern costume. It's got the same Three D look to it.

 

Don't know which version I like better, but this one looks more like a villian.

I'll probably stea...use both pics at some point in the future. sigh assuming I ever manage to get a champions game going around here. :(

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Don't know which version I like better, but this one looks more like a villian.

 

I'll probably stea...use both pics at some point in the future. sigh assuming I ever manage to get a champions game going around here. :(

 

Hmmm, well, I could always send you the stats for Black Swan. Storn will also be drawing her Packmate Nemean.

 

I may have to ask Storn not to post some pictures in the group because my players may seem them earlier than expected. Not to mention there's the whole ethics of 'sharing.'

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Hmmm, well, I could always send you the stats for Black Swan. Storn will also be drawing her Packmate Nemean.

 

I may have to ask Storn not to post some pictures in the group because my players may seem them earlier than expected. Not to mention there's the whole ethics of 'sharing.'

 

If you don't want me to post, you have to tell me. Pretty much everyone has me post stuff. Out of all the commissions I've done, maybe 5 asked me to hold back til their players have seen it.

 

Its a totally reasonable request... but I need to know it up front.

 

As for the ethics of sharing...I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say.... But I think that is my call, I own the rights to the artwork. I share artwork from my patrons so everyone can enjoy. My patrons should know this going in.

 

It is admittedly advertising for me, advertising for my patron's games, and sure, it gets swiped... but no one is making money from these artworks but me (or there will be problems!). But for me, it is how I support the general roleplaying community. By putting up artwork that might inspire a character, or fit a pre-existing character. It is how I give back.

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If you don't want me to post, you have to tell me. Pretty much everyone has me post stuff. Out of all the commissions I've done, maybe 5 asked me to hold back til their players have seen it.

 

Its a totally reasonable request... but I need to know it up front.

 

As for the ethics of sharing...I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say.... But I think that is my call, I own the rights to the artwork. I share artwork from my patrons so everyone can enjoy. My patrons should know this going in.

 

It is admittedly advertising for me, advertising for my patron's games, and sure, it gets swiped... but no one is making money from these artworks but me (or there will be problems!). But for me, it is how I support the general roleplaying community. By putting up artwork that might inspire a character, or fit a pre-existing character. It is how I give back.

 

Yeah, with future drawings I may have to limit their exposure for the campaign sake.

 

Interesting that you own the rights. I'm not disputing this or trying to be argumentative. I just know that for some artists, they are hired to draw and then the rights remain with whatever institution paid them.

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Yeah, with future drawings I may have to limit their exposure for the campaign sake.

 

Interesting that you own the rights. I'm not disputing this or trying to be argumentative. I just know that for some artists, they are hired to draw and then the rights remain with whatever institution paid them.

 

What we agree to when we have Storn do pics for us he has clearly posted on the commissions page of his website. I'm pretty sure he's made the agreement clear at different points in this thread as well. So, regardless of what the normal stance might or might not be, there are specific rules you agree to if you want him for a commission.

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Publishers try and get all rights to the artwork. It makes their bookkeeping easier when the reprint or want to use the artwork elsewhere.

 

Artists try and keep their work.

 

Good publishers will negotiate better deals than work for hire.

 

I'm at the point where from the gaming public at least, I can keep my rights to my work. As I have plenty of commissions and patrons (thank y'all kindly, btw). And it is the right to MY work, not the CHARACTER. Black Swan is your creation. YOu can go and do other artwork of Black Swan and publish it or put into a video game, that is not my business... But MY visual, my work of Black Swan IS my business.

 

And you are not paying publisher's rates. My rates for full color is $240.00 per page. A head to toe pose like most commissions, is a 1/2 pager. A head shot is a quarter pager.

 

You pay me $120.00 for a commission. You can have full rights.

 

But I don't think that something that is digitally colored, is really worth $120.00 to an INDIVIDUAL. Publisher? Yes, they make money off of art indirectly. But collectors? not really.

 

If you want a painting, something physical... I will be happy to do it. But it costs. Digital is a lot faster than traditional paint.

 

And if you come to me in a year and say "I would like to publish Black Swan in a Hero or M&M license product, can I use the pic please"... I will charge you a small fee and say "sure!".... I just made some money again off the pic and my approval was needed... I'm happy.

 

If you want a 8 foot tall painting, own all the rights, of Blue Ray... I'm gonna charge $2000.00 (because that is 2-3 weeks of work and I lose all future income on the pic)... if you meet that price... I would be thrilled to do it.

 

My website has my philosophy on all of this. I spell it out, I think pretty clearly.

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Publishers try and get all rights to the artwork. It makes their bookkeeping easier when the reprint or want to use the artwork elsewhere.

 

Artists try and keep their work.

 

Good publishers will negotiate better deals than work for hire.

 

I'm at the point where from the gaming public at least, I can keep my rights to my work. As I have plenty of commissions and patrons (thank y'all kindly, btw). And it is the right to MY work, not the CHARACTER. Black Swan is your creation. YOu can go and do other artwork of Black Swan and publish it or put into a video game, that is not my business... But MY visual, my work of Black Swan IS my business.

 

And you are not paying publisher's rates. My rates for full color is $240.00 per page. A head to toe pose like most commissions, is a 1/2 pager. A head shot is a quarter pager.

 

You pay me $120.00 for a commission. You can have full rights.

 

But I don't think that something that is digitally colored, is really worth $120.00 to an INDIVIDUAL. Publisher? Yes, they make money off of art indirectly. But collectors? not really.

 

If you want a painting, something physical... I will be happy to do it. But it costs. Digital is a lot faster than traditional paint.

 

And if you come to me in a year and say "I would like to publish Black Swan in a Hero or M&M license product, can I use the pic please"... I will charge you a small fee and say "sure!".... I just made some money again off the pic and my approval was needed... I'm happy.

 

If you want a 8 foot tall painting, own all the rights, of Blue Ray... I'm gonna charge $2000.00 (because that is 2-3 weeks of work and I lose all future income on the pic)... if you meet that price... I would be thrilled to do it.

 

My website has my philosophy on all of this. I spell it out, I think pretty clearly.

 

Please do not think me the least bit disgruntled or sorry that I hired you. I love your work.

 

This was all inquiry based on ignorance. I want to continue hiring you for future illustrations. I shall just tell my players not to peek at this thread.

 

Again, I hope I have not offended.

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Please do not think me the least bit disgruntled or sorry that I hired you. I love your work.

 

This was all inquiry based on ignorance. I want to continue hiring you for future illustrations. I shall just tell my players not to peek at this thread.

 

Again, I hope I have not offended.

 

Not offended in the least.

 

These are weighty issues (for me, at least..) and they need to be occasionally retouched upon. I"m never quite sure how folks heard of me, most come from this or the M&M boards, but I get patrons from all sorts of places.

 

Its complicated stuff.

 

Thank you for giving me a chance to spout off.

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When I wrote for roleplaying game companies (TSR/Wizards and White Wolf) they always contracted to retain all rights to the work I created. I had no room to negotiate otherwise. It's nice to see that is different for writers.

 

Err, I meant artists.

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