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12 hours ago, Ternaugh said:

War of the Worlds: George Pal's classic tale of an invasion of Earth by anti-vaxxers. (Kanopy)

 

This is a brilliant summary, and probably the funniest thing I'll read today.

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Galaxy Quest: Probably one of the best Star Trek movies ever! It's celebrating its 20th anniversary this month. (DVD)

 

Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi: A movie in desperate need of a good writer and a good editor. Watching it again, I can follow the various plots and the reasons for them*, but I wish that they took the "less is more" approach that The Mandalorian does. (UHD streaming via MoviesAnywhere**)

 

 

 

*The reason for the slow crawl of ships to the old base was because the First Order had a tracking device that worked through Hyperspace, the fleet only had enough fuel for one more jump, and they'd be almost immediately found and attacked if they tried a jump. The reason for the casino interlude was to find a hacker who could get Finn and Rose onto Snoke's cruiser and temporarily turn off the tracker to allow a safe jump. The back story of Luke and Ben/Kylo is told three different times (and three different ways), and reinforces the "certain point of view" that Kenobi mentioned in ESB.

 

**Yes, I own it. I also own Galactica 1980.

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My problem wasn't the slow crawl of ships, its that they established at the end that if they had moved everyone (there weren't many) to the big ship then turned one of the other 2 ships around and warped through the First Order fleet, they would have destroyed it, also, if you are low on fuel and everyone can pretty easily fit on one ship, as it appeared by the end, why are you wasting fuel on 3 ships and not combining it in just one.

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57 minutes ago, slikmar said:

My problem wasn't the slow crawl of ships, its that they established at the end that if they had moved everyone (there weren't many) to the big ship then turned one of the other 2 ships around and warped through the First Order fleet, they would have destroyed it, also, if you are low on fuel and everyone can pretty easily fit on one ship, as it appeared by the end, why are you wasting fuel on 3 ships and not combining it in just one.

One ship = one target. Take out that one ship and everything's lost.

 

You also have to take into account the arrogance and tactical idiocy of Poe Dameron. Poe believed doing the heroic thing was the only way to go, and he unintentionally fouled up every piece of nuance he touched. Even the raid on the First Order dreadnought at the start of the film was a phenomenal blunder and waste of precious "air power" that nearly wiped out the fighter contingent and threw away their entire offensive potential for no sound reason. (it's not certain that was Poe's idea, but the talking-to he got from Leia certainly implies he had something to do with planning it).

 

The whole point of Poe's storyarc is that heroic elan has its limitations and will not always carry the day. You need to be smart and careful too, and Poe was neither.

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51 minutes ago, Michael Hopcroft said:

One ship = one target. Take out that one ship and everything's lost.

 

You also have to take into account the arrogance and tactical idiocy of Poe Dameron. Poe believed doing the heroic thing was the only way to go, and he unintentionally fouled up every piece of nuance he touched. Even the raid on the First Order dreadnought at the start of the film was a phenomenal blunder and waste of precious "air power" that nearly wiped out the fighter contingent and threw away their entire offensive potential for no sound reason. (it's not certain that was Poe's idea, but the talking-to he got from Leia certainly implies he had something to do with planning it).

 

The whole point of Poe's storyarc is that heroic elan has its limitations and will not always carry the day. You need to be smart and careful too, and Poe was neither.

 

Poe violated orders to break off the attack and return to the fleet precisely so that he could claim the destruction of the First Order dreadnought. The Resistance lost every heavy bomber that they had, and most of their X-Wing escorts, not to mention the many pilots and crew. There's a scene much later where Leia is talking with the admiral about there being many heroes during the battle, but no leaders.

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2 hours ago, slikmar said:

My problem wasn't the slow crawl of ships, its that they established at the end that if they had moved everyone (there weren't many) to the big ship then turned one of the other 2 ships around and warped through the First Order fleet, they would have destroyed it, also, if you are low on fuel and everyone can pretty easily fit on one ship, as it appeared by the end, why are you wasting fuel on 3 ships and not combining it in just one.

 

When I re-watched the sequence, I don't think that any of the smaller capital ships would have been able to do enough damage. I'm not sure that ships like the medical frigate would even penetrate the shields on Snoke's ship.

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1 hour ago, Michael Hopcroft said:

You also have to take into account the arrogance and tactical idiocy of Poe Dameron. 

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1 hour ago, Michael Hopcroft said:

The whole point of Poe's storyarc is that heroic elan has its limitations and will not always carry the day. You need to be smart and careful too, and Poe was neither.

 

 

I actually found that to be one of the things I liked about that movie-- the massive character flaw, I mean.  It was such a refreshing break from the "the hero can only get things slightly wrong, and only if it's briefly funny" layout of the Star Wars movies.

 

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I actually wonder where, dramatically, the saga can go from this point. It seemed like a clear, if tragic, ending to the story -- Luke leaving the physical universe, the Resistance all but annihilated, Kylo Ren in full command of the First Order (albeit in a somewhat shaky position), with the mantle of the Jedi handed over to a woman who doesn't seem to want it. We have that final sequence of the story being told by the enslaved children, with one of them moving something with the force at the end, but that may well have been several generations later when Luke Skywalker is remembered only as a legend from distant history.

 

I can understand the fans wanting an upbeat ending to the Skywalker Saga, but there are no Skywalkers left.

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I still think Rey is a Skywalker. Her parentage was still never really answered. Of course, neither was Snoke or any other questions left open after the first of these movies as the people in charge really appeared to want to deconstruct the entire thing.

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Watched a Ron White special which was not safe for work, and the strange case of dr jeckyll and mr hyde with Tony Todd as the split personality roaming around murdering and eating young coeds. This is a b movie and it shows

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