DusterBoy Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Yes! I was very sad when the Marines didn't go with this for their IAD competition. Although to be honest the constant recoil seems to make the gun too controllable' date=' and it would be worthwhile to apply it to a heavier caliber weapon.[/quote'] Yeah, like 7x43mm, so you have a .30-cal weapon (actually .280-cal, but let's not quibble) which is controllable on full-auto. Give it a 20-inch quick-change barrel, a 150 round drum mag, a collapsing stock, P-rails, integral bipod and a nice big forward grip and you're good to go. Shame that'll stay a fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games I think the ammunition is too expensive to use in a belt fed weapon. And you wouldn't gain much by doing so in any case. There are people trying to get it into use, figuring it could be a little heavier than the Mag-58 but with the range of a .50. I am not so sure, but it would still be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games well, just so we have another option for the bricks, especially the ones with one or two levels of growth... http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/11/30/huge-chinese-75-caliber-fortress-rifle/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Another thing I just saw... I had never heard of a lot of these cartridges, and many of the ones I had heard of this is the first time I saw them. http://engelscollectibles.com/auction8/Catalog8web.pdf I did see a 1" gatling round iirc at the Smithsonian when I was 10... Though it was a cannister round I think. nasty way to clear the decks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games This looks perfect for a truck driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmaster Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Controllability has never been a selling point for any full auto pistol that I know of. It's more about shredding your opponent at very close range. There's usually some token attempt to try to control the recoil' date=' like muzzle porting or the cheesy fold-down foregrip on the Beretta 93R. But realistically these are for spray and pray.[/quote'] I only know of 2 full auto pistols that seem to have actually been practical. The SCAMP fired a short .223 round similar to the 5.7mm FN round. The Polish PM-63 was a little bigger than a M1911 but fired the short Soviet 9mm round. Both of these were largish for a pistol and had a muzzle brake, but could be carried in a holster like a pistol. Their intended use was a small self defense weapon for people who don't normally need a weapon, what in the late 90s became known as a PDW. There have been some that could use a removable stock, but then you are kind of moving to a small SMG. The H&K VP-70 is probably the best of these, it could only fire auto (3 rd bursts) when the stock was attached which would greatly increase controllability (and makes it less fun). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_SCAMP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PM-63_RAK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games I only know of 2 full auto pistols that seem to have actually been practical. The SCAMP fired a short .223 round similar to the 5.7mm FN round. The Polish PM-63 was a little bigger than a M1911 but fired the short Soviet 9mm round. Both of these were largish for a pistol and had a muzzle brake, but could be carried in a holster like a pistol. Their intended use was a small self defense weapon for people who don't normally need a weapon, what in the late 90s became known as a PDW. There have been some that could use a removable stock, but then you are kind of moving to a small SMG. The H&K VP-70 is probably the best of these, it could only fire auto (3 rd bursts) when the stock was attached which would greatly increase controllability (and makes it less fun). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_SCAMP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PM-63_RAK I always liked the Colt Imp and SCAMP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Going completely in the other direction, here is a .700 caliber rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Going completely in the other direction' date=' here is a .700 caliber rifle. Didn't Mayfair's Underground game have handguns up to 30mm, and rifles up to 50mm, wieldable by superstrong characters? That seems like such custom weapons would be likely to exist in a superpowered world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games I have always been convinced such would. Imagine an Old West brick with a colt revolving shotgun converted to percussion 12 ga and made into a revolver... or maybe a new cylinder in the iirc .75-150 Win, that is in my Cartridges of the world. There apparently was ONE gun made in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Imagine an Old West brick with a colt revolving shotgun converted to percussion 12 ga and made into a revolver... or maybe a new cylinder in the iirc .75-150 Win, that is in my Cartridges of the world. There apparently was ONE gun made in it. There may or may not be the Taurus Raging Judge revolver in .28ga. I never did hear if the BATF was going to allow that. You could also cut down an MTs-255 if you don't care what the BATF thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Going completely in the other direction' date=' here is a .700 caliber rifle. I can see stuff like that in Kazei 5, considering the 25-40 STR cyborgs, replicates, espers, and APEX suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeto Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Got this on it's way to me [ATTACH=CONFIG]40795[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Got this on it's way to me [ATTACH=CONFIG]40795[/ATTACH] Sweet. Interchangeable barrels? I have always liked that Idea. Just this afternoon I was b-sing with a friend. If I won a lottery, I would contact Doug Turnbull and have him make me an Winchester 1886 with 3 or 4 barrels. lightweight(ish) hunting in .45-70, another probably somewhat heavier in either .50-90 or .50 alaskan, and probably a fairly heavy one in each also. I am intrigued by the wildcat .375-.348 Ackley improved, but I think it would work better in a single shot or bolt action. There are no flex tip bullets appropriate for it from Hornady, and I am not a big fan of flat point bullets where I don't have to use them. At least not in cartridges that should have reasonable ability to reach out there... Or, more practically, maybe just an interchangeable barrel takedown Marlin 1895 with three barrels. A 16-18 inch carbine, a 20 inch short rifle, and a 26 inch long rifle. All with full length magazine tubes. .45-70 of course. If the gun could function with it it would be nice to have a barrel, probably 18-20 inch, in either .50-70 or .50-90. Just for gits and shins, of course. Then a takedown model 92 or Marlin in .45 colt. Two barrels, one a fairly short light one of hunting, backpacking, etc... the other say 24" medium weight. With Ruger specific loads, even without getting into the ultra high pressure .454 Casull loads, it is possible to load a .45 colt +P to put out a 360 gr lead bullet at a bit over 1000fps from a revolver. From a longer rifle Barrel, I suspect they might generate 1200fps. As this is within shouting distance of the traditional loads for the .45-70, I think this would be an awesome combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeto Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games The extra cylinder also lets me use .45 colt cartridge ammo as well as the normal cap and ball in the cylinder that is on the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games The extra cylinder also lets me use .45 colt cartridge ammo as well as the normal cap and ball in the cylinder that is on the gun. Okay, Now I am just plain drooling in envy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John T Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Okay' date=' Now I am just plain drooling in envy![/quote'] Can't tell if your avatar is wearing a bib or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Can't tell if your avatar is wearing a bib or not... Fortunately Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games I'll try to attach some stuff I found about the CETME ultra high BC bullet designs from the post WWII era. I have a google translation of the text lower in the file. Okay, that did not work. The site I got the info from is http://www.municion.org/7_92x40/7_92x40.htm Someone here can probably do a better translation than I got from GOOGLE anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Anti-vampire rounds? Fábrica Nacional de Palencia. España KZ0018 Cartucho experimental de fogueo, inerte con el número de referencia grabado de fábrica (1703). Proyectil de madera con perforación profunda. FOTO: XIMO-SAN MILLAN FOTO: XIMO-SAN MILLAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games I'm dying to know if they tried to actually fire that. Personally I always figured wooden anti-vampire rounds would be based on shotgun ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeto Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Usually the wooden rounds are for training. They put a device over the muzzle that catches them and allows them to burn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Usually the wooden rounds are for training. They put a device over the muzzle that catches them and allows them to burn up. I did not know that. [/Johnny Carson] Repped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DusterBoy Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games I'm dying to know if they tried to actually fire that. Personally I always figured wooden anti-vampire rounds would be based on shotgun ammo. I always figured anti-vampire rounds would be shotgun rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Re: Cool Guns for your Games I always figured anti-vampire rounds would be shotgun rounds. Depends on the vampire. In 'Salem's Lot a vampire takes two barrels to the chest at a range of maybe 5 feet. All it does it vaporize the vampire's clothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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