Amnesia Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 My suggestion Amnesia (mentalist who specialises in memory alteration, esp. erasing them). Well how could I not suggest that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Agenda Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Doctor Archetype (Channeler) Talion (Vigilante, from Hebraic Law "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth) Bifrost (from the Norse "Rainbow Bridge", a teleporter) Action Grrl Marduk (Babylonian storm god) Techyon (Fast gadgeteer) Lurker Matrix (Power mimic) Archmage Online (Cyberpath) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Super Names Dave, Thanks. However just before the old boards went down I asked why some of the names were gone. I concede the funny/humerous ones but with others there was no reason I could see as to why they went. Now the boards went before I saw an answer if one was given. There is no point in me adding these in Dribs and Drabs. Rather I will bundle them together in groups and you can say yay or nay if the reasoning behind their going is right ie too controversial, too silly, actual name etc There are a few I would like to see go back but I will reason these and they can be verified. I have only got as far as P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Posted February 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Roundup Got some great new names this time. Keep 'em coming. Siberian Tiger, care to provide an etymology for Scrum? EDIT: List deleted. Fresh roundup posted 3/5/03. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Need an opinion... I'm making an Ice-man type villian with a violent, ruthless streak. The name I have at the moment is ICESHRIKE. What do you folks think? Yes? No? Maybe? Give me your opinions, or other ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Posted February 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Re: Need an opinion... Originally posted by aylwin13 ICESHRIKE I don't know; I'm kind of on the fence with this one. The transition between the two word parts doesn't slide off the tongue well without a little practice. What kind of villain wants reporters tripping over his name on national television? On the other hand, once you've got the pronunciation right, it sounds very cool. I think you can count on your PCs mocking this guy's name based on their initial verbal trips, which may result in souring the flavor you want him to have. I'd recommend substituting a different word part to denote cold. How about Arctic Shrike or Coldshrike? Or perhaps a different predatory bird, like Icehawk. I like the notion of broadening this thread's purpose to include discussion of superhero/villain names rather than just accumulating a monster list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zornwil Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Re: Re: Kitchen Woman Originally posted by Dynamo If the first publication that comes to mind when I read a name is Too Much Coffee Man, said name is unlikely to make it to the next roundup. What a bizarre rule. This is your game so no objection, just strikes me as odd, given in particular that Too Much Coffee Man is one of the coolest names out there and a decent book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug McCrae Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Non-alpabetical ordering It seems to me that in order to make this list into a really useful resource it would have to be ordered in other ways. Alphabetical is useful to determine if a name already exists but people needing a character name are not going to particularly want one begining with 'S'. I propose two other kinds of ordering: 1) Power base - Categories could include Fire/Heat, Cold, Animals, Weapons and the like. 2) Period - Golden Age, Silver Age, modern. This would be hard work though, I have to admit. The list of names I keep on my own PC could really do with such ordering but I've always put it off as too much effort. Of course the longer I leave it, the harder the job becomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibear Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Good idea Doug, but I certainly wouldn't like the task of sorting 5,000+ names into nice groups. Too big a task even for the tireless Dynamo, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargoyle Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Going through the list, I saw that theres both a Mindblade and a Mind Blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Posted February 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Re: Kitchen Woman Originally posted by zornwil What a bizarre rule. This is your game so no objection, just strikes me as odd, given in particular that Too Much Coffee Man is one of the coolest names out there and a decent book. That was more of a tongue-in-cheek expression of a much more subjective selection system. Project 3000, as I stated at the opening of the thread, began as an effort to name enough supers to populate Champions Earth, which is a serious comicbook setting. To that end, I felt that outright silly or stupid names just didn't belong. Don't get me wrong. I really like Too Much Coffee Man, but when in comes to serious settings, it doesn't even make the list. I would prefer to make the current list a tool for more serious games. When I get prospective players who are new to the genre, I'd like to able to hand them a printout of the list and not wind up with a bunch character names that sound like rejects from The Tick. Players who prefer silly names and character themes don't need help coming up with them, but newbies could use an aid that doesn't give them the wrong impression. I hope this helps explain my selection criteria without alienating any would be contributors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Posted February 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Re: Non-alpabetical ordering Originally posted by Doug McCrae I propose two other kinds of ordering: Power base - Categories could include Fire/Heat, Cold, Animals, Weapons and the like. Period - Golden Age, Silver Age, modern. The problem with a system like that is that a given name can carry different connotations for different people. Even if I were omniscient and could predict every useful category that others might attach to each name, the list would balloon out of control as each entry would have to appear in several places. Perhaps in the future, the list might be taken to a database format that would allow each name to have several keywords attached in aid search by theme, era, style, double entendre, or what have you. But that would require that every be able to access the same database format, and that's probably not happening any time soon. On my Skills-to-Acquire-Soon list are SQL and some other database-oriented skills, both because they interest me and because they're in the second half of the IT program I'm taking in the evenings. So later this year, I may import the list into an open format that will let me render an alphabetical list for plaintext posting with the raw file attached for those with the right database capability. For now, there is only one organization that allows each name to be listed only once and still maintain the list in a reasonable order, and that's alphabetically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Posted February 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Originally posted by Gargoyle Going through the list, I saw that theres both a Mindblade and a Mind Blade. Thanks. I'll yank the dupe in the next roundup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug McCrae Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 Re: Re: Non-alpabetical ordering Originally posted by Dynamo Perhaps in the future, the list might be taken to a database format that would allow each name to have several keywords attached in aid search by theme, era, style, double entendre, or what have you. My thinking is that the best place for the Soon To Be 6000 Project is as a website in its own right or perhaps as part of a website containing resources for superhero gamers. The name list on this putative site could, but would not necessarily have to be, database driven. Everyone would be able to access this as the end product seen by the user, whether driven by a database or not, would be HTML pages. You're right that every name could probably fit within many different categories so the user would see a long list of buttons with all these, click the one required eg. 'Fire' and get all the fire names. Alternatively he/she might click 'Energy Projector' and would get a much longer list. I've seen something similar with a list of gods from many cultures, ordered by category e.g. War, Fertility, etc. A damn useful resource for we gamers. The url is http://web.archive.org/web/20011012083319/raven.cybercom.com/~grandpa/chapter6.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Corrections (?) Kamikaze is down twice at 2351 and 2352 Killowatt is 2402 but Kilowatt is 2405. What's the difference ? Lastly 4795 Titania. How can she be King of the Fairies and Husband of Titania ? (OOOPS !!) Have now finished going through and working out what was axed. Will put up these and ask for confirmation but there quite a few and I need to organise them first. Then we add new ones. Well I have two new ones so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Posted February 27, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Re: Corrections (?) Originally posted by death tribble Kamikaze is down twice at 2351 and 2352 Killowatt is 2402 but Kilowatt is 2405. What's the difference ? Lastly 4795 Titania. How can she be King of the Fairies and Husband of Titania ? (OOOPS !!) Thanks. Yanked the extra Kamikaze from my master file (along with the extra Mind Blade noted above). Kilowatt and Killowatt both stay, since they are distinct, one being spelled correctly and the other extending the first syllable to "Kill", substantially changing the connotations of the name by giving it a psycho quality. Fixed Titania on the master file. I must have been getting tired and just copy/pasted from her hubby Oberon and forgot to edit. I'll be dropping off the boards for a couple days, so don't think I'm just ignoring your next few posts. I'm so sick, I'm lucky I didn't have to take a nap while typing this. Judging from how long my wife was down with this crud, I should be back on Sunday. Oog. Somebody wake me when the floor stops tilting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Missing Master Criminals Dave, We have Moriarty and Fantomas on your list. Both are major master criminals from popular fiction. But two others are missing. Fu Manchu or Dr Fu Manchu and Dr Mabuse. Both have been in films and Fu Manchu is in books by Sax Rohmer. I cannot speak for Mabuse as he is German and I have never seen English translations of any books about him. Any plans to exclude either or both of these notables ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Rejected or Missing Names Part 1 Dave, Here is the first batch of rejected or missing names. these are all places or people and I am assuming that they were rejected for this reason. I will warn you now that the Silly Name one is quite big. These did not seem to qualify for that so I put them here instead. Alabhama Montgomery Albert (partner of Victoria) Alcar West Andarra Basque (part of Spain) Biscay Blucher (German Pocket battleship) Bonnie (and Cylde) Bucephalus (Alexander the Great's horse) Cannae (Hannibal's Great Victory over Rome) Catalan (part of Spain) Citizen Chauvelin Clyde (and Bonnie) Commander Zzak Deutschland (Germany) Eric the Red Gneisenau (German battleship) Graf Spee (Pocket Battleship) Herr Krebs Hipper (German Pocket battleship) James Cole Younger Juukinzoku the Mistress of Robots Ki Gun Djinn Kubla Khan Limehouse Leopard Lydon 'Brains' Johnson (Gang Boss) Major Kessler Marquis De Sade Meneleus Mersey Mississipi Missouri Mister Otto Mollock the Eater of Children Montgomery Nile Norfolk Broads (waterway in England) Oliver Twist Oraclese Oscar Wild Pantagruel Parsifial Pericles Phantom of Salt Lake City Pretty Boy Fleming Prinz Eugan (German Battlecruiser) Rhianna Robespierre Scharnhorst (German battleship) Seker Serephena Shalandra Stella Polare Sutekh Thames Tiblisi Miracle, The Tiffany Jones Tirpitz (German battleship) Ulric Verdun (WW1 battle between France and Germany) Victoria (partner of Albert) Volga (Russian river) Wild Bill Hancock Zama (Hannibal's defeat by Scipio) In the case of the German battleships they were named after famous Germans ie Scharnhorst and Gniesenau were active in the Napoleonic wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 missing or rejected 2 I believe that these were rejected on the grounds that they are or were under copyright to another company (gaming or otherwise) 451 Al Khayal Min Allah Al-'Ain min Allah Argurous Astraph Big Boss Man Big Daddy Cool Brooklyn Dodger Celebrity Skin Chicago Bear Chicago Bull Doctor Strangelove Don Giovanni Flamin' Jane Hawkeye Johnny Ripp Karate Kid Lord of the Flies Manic Street Preacher Mighty Aphrodite Minnesota Viking Mississipi Burning Mister Freeze Ms Tree New York Giant New York Jet New York Yankee No 6 (for fans of the Prisoner) Oakland Raider Pittsburgh Steeler Poison Ivy Power Girl Power Princess Punisher San Diego Charger Shadowfax Shrinking Violet Universal Soldier Wasp Wild Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 missing or rejected 3 I believe that these gun related ones were rejected for that reason. Why I don't know but would appreciate confirmation that this is the reason that these did not make it onto the list. AK47 AK74 BAR Luger Kalashnikov Martini Henry (rifle) Mauser M16 Smith Sten Wesson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Posted March 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Re: Missing Master Criminals Originally posted by death tribble We have Moriarty and Fantomas on your list. Both are major master criminals from popular fiction. But two others are missing. Fu Manchu or Dr Fu Manchu and Dr Mabuse. Both have been in films and Fu Manchu is in books by Sax Rohmer. I cannot speak for Mabuse as he is German and I have never seen English translations of any books about him. Any plans to exclude either or both of these notables ? Moriarty got the nod for obvious reasons. Fantomas went back in after you mentioned him the first time because a quick web search revealed him to be a popular literary character, a fact I'd not known when I axed him the first time, thinking it was just a nonsense word. I left out Fu Manchu for the same reason I left out Thor, overdone. In my opinion, the good doctor failed the originality test. When I do a web search for Mabuse, the only sites on the first page of the search engine results in English are for a German R&D corporation and a Flemish renaissance painter, so Mabuse got the axe. Looking further after you brought him up again, I found more appropriate sites, but still wasn't inclined to include him, as he didn't seem a good name choice for a comicbook genre super. Then I found this at dvdjournal.com. OK, I'm convinced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Posted March 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Re: missing or rejected 3 Originally posted by death tribble I believe that these gun related ones were rejected for that reason. Why I don't know but would appreciate confirmation that this is the reason that these did not make it onto the list. AK47 AK74 BAR Luger Kalashnikov Martini Henry (rifle) Mauser M16 Smith Sten Wesson Yup, whacked these for being genre-inappropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Posted March 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Re: missing or rejected 2 Originally posted by death tribble I believe that these were rejected on the grounds that they are or were under copyright to another company (gaming or otherwise) *LIST OMITTED* Some of these got axed for being genre-inappropriate, but most for being unoriginal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Posted March 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Re: Rejected or Missing Names Part 1 Originally posted by death tribble Here is the first batch of rejected or missing names. these are all places or people and I am assuming that they were rejected for this reason. I will warn you now that the Silly Name one is quite big. These did not seem to qualify for that so I put them here instead. *LIST OMITTED* In the case of the German battleships they were named after famous Germans ie Scharnhorst and Gniesenau were active in the Napoleonic wars. The majority of these were axed for being genre-inappropriate. Some failed the proper name test. Some were merged with other similar entries (e.g. Wild Bill Hancock is on the list as Wild Bill, which is more genre-appropriate). I'm aware of the German naval ship naming tradition, but that doesn't make a name genre-appropriate. There are no superheroes named George Washington Carver or supervillains going by Benedict Arnold, despite their historical significance. Regions as name got the axe for the same reason. Captain America doesn't go by America now that he's a civilian. Though, that made me think to throw Deutchland back in as Hauptmann Deutchland. I put Commander ZZak back in. He edges into my silly name filter, but only barely. Feel free to post the list of silly names, and I'll review it. But I stand by the silly name filter. See my earlier posts on the subject. Fresh roundup tomorrow with the above changes and some brainstorming I did last week for "power armor"-type names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomGM2602 Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Teen heroes and Villians Heroes Prince SAGA,the Tommorrow Teen-Flying brick,a cross between Superboy and Kid Supreme[from Awesome Comics] Dataswipe-Cyberpsi with telekenesis Rokk(pronounced 'rock']-the ultimate immovable object,a almagation of Juggernaut[from X-MEN] and Maul[from WildC.A.T.S] Starblaze-Energy projector,cosmically powered Dreamstar-Mystic,Magical girl with abilities to travel in dreams. Roll-one half of the team "Rokk-n-Roll",ultimate speedster,irresistable force,speed90 mps. Liona the She-Cat -Feliniod fighter with beastal features and temper. Tempest-wheather manipulator,grandaughter of west cost superhero,Mealstrom,Daugther of Thor ,norse god of thunder Vortexx-air elemental Villians AXE Crazy Eight Grenader Deathscream HellFyre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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