Matt the Bruins Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Re: The Secret History of America. I'd definitely recommend making Manly Wade Wellman's fiction a priority if you're planning on having a folklore-based occult angle to the hidden history of America. DVDs of the TV series Carnivàle might also be a useful resource, more for mood and style than the actual mythology explored (though there is a Masonic angle to some parts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapsedgamer Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Re: The Secret History of America. I'd definitely recommend making Manly Wade Wellman's fiction a priority if you're planning on having a folklore-based occult angle to the hidden history of America. DVDs of the TV series Carnivàle might also be a useful resource' date=' more for mood and style than the actual mythology explored (though there is a Masonic angle to some parts).[/quote'] I have watched both seasons of Carnivale on DVD. Good call. I liked the show a lot, and not just because I have a thing for Cynthia Ettinger (Rita Sue). The setting of the show is a little late, and a bit smaller in scale, than the one I'm thinking about, but the tone is just about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Re: The Secret History of America. Well, if you want it realistic. Do keep in mind that very few Southerners actually did own slaves. (I heard some estimate at 14%). The vast majority didnt. Most of the people who fought for the Confederacy would likely have been taking the view that the "Yankees" were invaders. I do have to mention a little of my background. I live in the South (southern VA), and my ancestors have at least back to the Revolution. A did have a direct ancestor who was the only son to carry on the name because his 3 older brothers died fighting for the South. (1 of which died in a POW camp up North after being captured, from disease.) I do have to admit to getting touchy on occasion with Hollywood portraying every single person who fought for the Confederacy as ignorant, slave-owning rednecks. Especially, given that my ancestors were pretty much dirt poor farmers until the factories/industry took hold in the area in the 1910's. I cant say what their feelings were about the subject, but I suspect they probably were like the majority just something they assumed was a fact of life and largely ignored because it rarely if ever had much of a factor in their life. Note: Sorry, if I did somehow offend. Just wanted to let you know that depending on the players' ancestries it could get volatile if not careful. It is a cool concept, so that would be a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapsedgamer Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Re: The Secret History of America. Well, if you want it realistic. Do keep in mind that very few Southerners actually did own slaves. (I heard some estimate at 14%). The vast majority didnt. Most of the people who fought for the Confederacy would likely have been taking the view that the "Yankees" were invaders. I do have to mention a little of my background. I live in the South (southern VA), and my ancestors have at least back to the Revolution. A did have a direct ancestor who was the only son to carry on the name because his 3 older brothers died fighting for the South. (1 of which died in a POW camp up North after being captured, from disease.) I do have to admit to getting touchy on occasion with Hollywood portraying every single person who fought for the Confederacy as ignorant, slave-owning rednecks. Especially, given that my ancestors were pretty much dirt poor farmers until the factories/industry took hold in the area in the 1910's. I cant say what their feelings were about the subject, but I suspect they probably were like the majority just something they assumed was a fact of life and largely ignored because it rarely if ever had much of a factor in their life. Note: Sorry, if I did somehow offend. Just wanted to let you know that depending on the players' ancestries it could get volatile if not careful. It is a cool concept, so that would be a shame. Nope. You certainly did not offend. Your statements were based on a well thought out mix of fact and personal opinion, and were completely reasonable. I once read a book called Everything You Think You Know is Wrong. It's part of a series of books and videos called Disinformation. There was a blurb about a number of Blacks who actually fought on the side of the Confederacy, and I believe that they used a number very similar to yours for the percentage of actual slave owners fighting for the Confederates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJackBrass Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Re: The Secret History of America. If you want to include some degree of non-imported weirdness then you could do worse than to read Myths and Legends of Our Own Land by Charles M. Skinner. I have a rather lovely two volume edition from a hundred years ago, but more conveniently you can follow that link to a free e-text on Project Gutenberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapsedgamer Posted February 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Re: The Secret History of America. If you want to include some degree of non-imported weirdness then you could do worse than to read Myths and Legends of Our Own Land by Charles M. Skinner. I have a rather lovely two volume edition from a hundred years ago' date=' but more conveniently you can follow that link to a free e-text on [i']Project Gutenberg.[/i] Thanks for the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st barbara Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Re: The Secret History of America. Nope. You certainly did not offend. Your statements were based on a well thought out mix of fact and personal opinion' date=' and were completely reasonable. I once read a book called Everything You Think You Know is Wrong. It's part of a series of books and videos called Disinformation. There was a blurb about a number of Blacks who actually fought on the side of the Confederacy, and I believe that they used a number very similar to yours for the percentage of actual slave owners fighting for the Confederates.[/quote'] Is that one of Russ Kick's books ? I have one edited by him with the title "Everything You Know Is Wrong". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapsedgamer Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Re: The Secret History of America. Is that one of Russ Kick's books ? I have one edited by him with the title "Everything You Know Is Wrong". That's right. I have a couple of his books that I want to read. Everytime I see one for sale cheap I pounce on it, so they tend to pile up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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