Doc Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero Or we can go all the way back to the source and The Song of Roland' date=' or even [i']The Faerie Queen[/i] if we really wanna break out the nerd hats. I got so much static for reading that book... "Hey, Thia, are you a fag?" "Wait, what are you talking about?" "Faerie Queen! HA HA HA!" "Ingrate." Then there was the justice that came from sparring practice. "I'm gonna fight Thia!" (and the entire group glanced around nervously) Thia picks up his trusty two-handed boffer and spins it casually, before dropping into a wide middle-guard combat stance. "Bring it." Thia proceeds to tear his opposition to pieces, landing three blows in under seven seconds before the ref can call a Hold. This repeated for about an hour before the idiot gave up. I don't even remember his name anymore. MY HERO!!!! ... ... ... Ok, sorry, just drop it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero The vorpal sword is originally a Carroll creation, but I don't think it meant what it means in D&D now. You could make them a very common weapon, and throw the players for a loop when they don't cut limbs off regularly. Vorpal Sword: Sound Images, only to go "snicker-snack" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero Oh, by the way, some more ideas for royal houses: The King of Beasts The Queen of Battle The Queen of the Seas (or C's, even) The King of Misrule The Finger Prince The Foot Prince The Head Count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StGrimblefig Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero If you are including other Carrol works in the mix, I think the PCs would have to, at some point, go on a snark hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawain Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero If you are including other Carrol works in the mix' date=' I think the PCs would have to, at some point, go on a snark hunt.[/quote'] As long as the snark is not a boojum.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocelot Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero If you're looking for an excellent source of inspiration, I'd highly recommend Frank Beddor's The Looking Glass Wars. Wonderful take on Wonderland. The premise is that the Queen of Hearts is also known as Queen Redd, and she's Alice's aunt, and Alice is the rightful princess. She gets exiled to Earth, where she meets Lewis Carroll, who hears her story, but changes it to make it easier for Victorian England to digest. Meanwhile, Alice is being searched for by her guardian Madigan, the famous Hatter. I've only started the second book, Seeing Red, so I can't comment, but the first book is incredible. Tons of good ideas for setting a campaign against the backdrop of Wonderland using native characters. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestnik Posted January 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero If you're looking for an excellent source of inspiration' date=' I'd highly recommend Frank Beddor's The Looking Glass Wars. Wonderful take on Wonderland. The premise is that the Queen of Hearts is also known as Queen Redd, and she's Alice's aunt, and Alice is the rightful princess. She gets exiled to Earth, where she meets Lewis Carroll, who hears her story, but changes it to make it easier for Victorian England to digest. Meanwhile, Alice is being searched for by her guardian Madigan, the famous Hatter. I've only started the second book, Seeing Red, so I can't comment, but the first book is incredible. Tons of good ideas for setting a campaign against the backdrop of Wonderland using native characters. Good luck! Hmmmm. Vaugely like Wicked?: http://www.amazon.com/Wicked-Times-Witch-Harper-Fiction/dp/0061350966/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200642487&sr=1-1 It's funny -- I reread Alice in Wonderland recently, and thought it was brilliant. I also reread The Wizard of Oz for the first time since I was about 10 or so, and thought it was lame. Carrol >>>> Baum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocelot Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero Hmmmm. Vaugely like Wicked? Only in the sense that is a new take on an established universe. Wicked feels very much like a True Story of the Three Little Pigs story - let me tell it from the other side's perspective. The Looking Glass Wars is more of an expansion. I prefer The Looking Glass Wars to Wicked by a good margin. Has anyone else read it? The Hatter backpacks, which basically turn ordinary people into Inspector Gadgets, are awesome. So are the Card Soldiers. Super cybernetic robots. And the caterpillars. I'm going to go keep reading Seeing Redd. I LOVE this series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestnik Posted January 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero How's this? The Land of Oz (pre-Ozma return) is ruled by evil forces. Oz scientists discover a means to cross the Great Desert, and encounter their neighbor, Wonderland. An invasion ensues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero OK, let me get this out of the way first ---- Lewis Carroll is a ****ing GENIUS!!! I *adore* his works. *ahem* I recommend The Annotated Alice and More Annotated Alice by Martin Gardner. Terrific research into the Alice books. Don't make the Alice-verse "coherent." It's supposed to be nonsensical. After all, C. L. Dodgson was a scholar of Logic (back when it was a sub-field of language, rather than of "mathematics"), and he delighted in the illogical things one could do with words. BTW, if your players make it through Wonderland and Through-the-Looking-Glass, try them on the land of Hunting Of The Snark. Now *there* is a truly *odd* work. Well beyond the Alice books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestnik Posted January 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero Don't make the Alice-verse "coherent." It's supposed to be nonsensical. After all, C. L. Dodgson was a scholar of Logic (back when it was a sub-field of language, rather than of "mathematics"), and he delighted in the illogical things one could do with words. Sure. But I want coherency. It's the way my mind works. Also, it's an interesting intellectual exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Obvious Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero You might consider picking up Vault of Dreams, which is a compilation of adventures for Reve: the Dream Ouroboros. The game is set in a dream world, and the adventures tend to have a very Wonderland-ish quality to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thia Halmades Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero How's this? The Land of Oz (pre-Ozma return) is ruled by evil forces. Oz scientists discover a means to cross the Great Desert' date=' and encounter their neighbor, Wonderland. An invasion ensues.[/quote'] That works, but if you call it "The Oh Zee" you'll get lynched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonio Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero That works' date=' but if you call it "The Oh Zee" you'll get lynched.[/quote'] Oh come one... you didn't like Tin Man? I thought it wasn't bad at all. An interesting spin on the original story. Sure, it was cheesy and had crappy SFX, but hey, that's why we all love sci-fi B movies, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thia Halmades Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero Oh come one... you didn't like Tin Man? I thought it wasn't bad at all. An interesting spin on the original story. Sure' date=' it was cheesy and had crappy SFX, but hey, that's why we all love sci-fi B movies, no? [/quote'] I love Neil McDonough. He's one of those actors where I don't mind seeing him play Neil McDonough. But overall, I though the show was just weak. The Wicked Witch had a great rack, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestnik Posted January 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero Oh Zee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thia Halmades Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero Oh Zee? In this reinterpretation of "The Wizard of Oz," they refer to "Oz" as "the Oh Zee." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceTheOwl Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re: Lewis Carrol Hero If you're looking for an excellent source of inspiration' date=' I'd highly recommend Frank Beddor's The Looking Glass Wars. Wonderful take on Wonderland. The premise is that the Queen of Hearts is also known as Queen Redd, and she's Alice's aunt, and Alice is the rightful princess. She gets exiled to Earth, where she meets Lewis Carroll, who hears her story, but changes it to make it easier for Victorian England to digest. Meanwhile, Alice is being searched for by her guardian Madigan, the famous Hatter. I've only started the second book, Seeing Red, so I can't comment, but the first book is incredible. Tons of good ideas for setting a campaign against the backdrop of Wonderland using native characters. Good luck! As wonderful as that sounds, I can't get past "Alyss." *shudders* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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