GamePhil Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer Defeating someone like Dr. D should be a campaign ending event; is my point. Or a campaign beginning event, for a really high powered campaign, or possibly a transition point. Something momentous, regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted September 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer and the writeup was fairly close to that version It was surprisingly easy (not to mention fun ) to "synch up" the various published versions. I'm betting each author did what I did when I wrote CKC -- he went back to the last version and based his work on that. The result is a fairly consistent step-by-step improvement in Dr. D over the years. Hopefully the same will hold true for Mechanon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mhoram Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer It was surprisingly easy (not to mention fun ) to "synch up" the various published versions. I'm betting each author did what I did when I wrote CKC -- he went back to the last version and based his work on that. The result is a fairly consistent step-by-step improvement in Dr. D over the years. Hopefully the same will hold true for Mechanon. To me that was just class - respecting what came before. And using that artwork too. So Kudos to you Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Archeville Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer It was surprisingly easy (not to mention fun ) to "synch up" the various published versions. I'm betting each author did what I did when I wrote CKC -- he went back to the last version and based his work on that. The result is a fairly consistent step-by-step improvement in Dr. D over the years. Hopefully the same will hold true for Mechanon. The Manual of Mechanon? Sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer The Manual of Mechanon? Sweet! According to the planned 2009 Release Schedule, it will be called The Book Of The Machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer What no Mini D and his twin sister Double D??? We were robbed QM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer What no Mini D and his twin sister Double D??? We were robbed QM send in NEMESIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer To me that was just class - respecting what came before. And using that artwork too. So Kudos to you Steve. To give credit where it's due -- on the issue of using the old art Andy deserves the kudos. I thought of it, but was reluctant to do it for fear it might be seen as disrespectful. Andy convinced me it wouldn't be, and it seems he was correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Archeville Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer So the folks who get plastic surgery to look like Dr. Destroyer (The Cult of the Destroyer, pg.194) -- is it to look like him as he was in 1945 (last confirmed photo), as of 1968 (date of mot recent photo claimed to be of him), or as he is now (i.e., erasing their facial features, removing all hair, and getting forehead implants so their head looks like Destroyer's faceless mask/helmet)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer In fairness, this book was pretty good. Why do I say that? Because Doc D is one of my least favorite Champions villains. I had his death(yes the REAL death) be the opening of my current campaign cause I didn't want him in it. Having said, that, the book was quite good. Everything you ever wanted to know about Destroyer. I particularly liked the history section...sprinkled with thought bubbles from the Doctor as the events happened. Great stuff. The legacy stuff also was quite good. In short...so much great material that I plan to have an ursurper take over parts of his former empire just so I can use some of the base and robot and villain writeups. I'm thinking Professor Muerte...someone similiar, but not "quite" the same. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer Who killed Doctor Destroyer? Inquiring minds want to know? QM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer Who killed Doctor Destroyer? Inquiring minds want to know? QM If you mean in my game, it was a powerhouse I named Paragon, very loosely based on the character of Sovereign from Galactic Champions. Paragon wanted to create a perfect society, one able to stave off the inevitable calamities of Humanity's future(like alien invasions). Of course, in order to achieve this goal, he had to eliminate(in one way or another) anyone with the ability to interfere. Paragon, using his mental powers oh so subtly, orchestrated the Battle of Detroit, making Destroyer think it was his own idea. When Destroyer brought down death on Detroit, it was then..and only then..that he realized his teleportation module had been sabotaged. Bye bye, Doc. Paragon basically steps in...pretending to be Doctor Destroyer(an easy task with his mental powers). And....then my campaign begins... Rob PS This was about 3 years ago...the game is still running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted September 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer So the folks who get plastic surgery to look like Dr. Destroyer (The Cult of the Destroyer, pg.194) -- is it to look like him as he was in 1945 (last confirmed photo), as of 1968 (date of mot recent photo claimed to be of him), or as he is now (i.e., erasing their facial features, removing all hair, and getting forehead implants so their head looks like Destroyer's faceless mask/helmet)? Whichever one they (or you, as GM planning something fiendish) prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronKiros Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer So how do we get this to find on Amazon.com? I can't put it on my wish list if I can't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer i sent you a pm with an idea baron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer What no Mini D and his twin sister Double D??? We were robbed QM We get a female minion called Fourplay. That was quite enough bad jokes in the minion department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer According to the planned 2009 Release Schedule' date=' it will be called [i']The Book Of The Machine[/i]. As long as it's not Mechanon Vista... and thus endeth the thread derailment. Now back to Dr Destroyer-ness. Without having read the supplement, I think Destroyer has evolved beyond a Dr Doom homage to his own entity. It makes sense- 25 years of development will make a tribute take a life of its own, won't it? I have to admit, the Shadow Destroyer storyline suggested here intrigues me. I suspect I will pick up the book if only to leanr more about it. For the most part, my game has been Street Level Supers for my part, so Dr. Destroyer is way over-powered. I'd be interested to see what a Dark Champions conversion might look like. I suspect he'd be more of a Darth Vader or Silvermane style cyborg with a less refined bionic body keeping him alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer dr destroyer dark champs style?good question me id say itd be a nickname for a drug pusher or a weapons dealer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Long Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer There is a section of the book with versions of Dr. Destroyer for Fantasy Hero, Dark Champions, Pulp Hero, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Gillen Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer To give credit where it's due -- on the issue of using the old art Andy deserves the kudos. I thought of it' date=' but was reluctant to do it for fear it might be seen as disrespectful. Andy convinced me it wouldn't be, and it seems he was correct. [/quote'] It was a great touch. jg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer I noticed in the section covering Dr. D's views on other individuals that Teleios is not included. While he is mentioned elsewhere, I don't recall those constituting a similar level of information as to how Destroyer views Teleios, what role he might have in mind for the Master of Genetics in his eventual reign, etc. Overall, the above constitutes a nit-pick as compared to the quality of the content. This is an excellent book, and I echo the classy use of past artwork - it gives credit to those who have gone before in creating and exploring Dr. Destroyer. Kudos to Andy for making the argument, and kudos to Steve for giving Andy the go-ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mhoram Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer To give credit where it's due -- on the issue of using the old art Andy deserves the kudos. I thought of it' date=' but was reluctant to do it for fear it might be seen as disrespectful. Andy convinced me it wouldn't be, and it seems he was correct. [/quote'] Okay, kudos to you both. Disrespectful? To me it is honoring the history of the character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer Once your players defeat Dr. Destroyer, you might as well pack it in. Thwart him, delay him, exile him, sure, but once they defeat him the movie is over and the credits roll. Beating him means that you didn't play his malevolence and intelligence up to full. Dr. D should be played as the guy who made Darth Vader cry. Mechanon is for the cathartic, smash-to-bits victories. Dr. D is the omega. I figured that Doctor D was the kind of villain you beat by ruining his plans, not by actually physically pounding into hamburger. Besides, even if you did, smart money says it was just a Destroyerbot the good Doctor threw at you to keep you occupied ("Superheroes. So predictable.") while he flew off to plan his next scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenrisUlf Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer To me that was just class - respecting what came before. I agree, but you know that with an attitude like that, Steve will never make it in the modern superhero comics business. EDIT: I have to stop reading threads like this, you guys make me want this book SO MUCH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Archeville Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Re: The Book Of The Destroyer So is Doctor D comfortable with not being able to receive radio/tv transmissions from Earth on Zuflucht (his super-secret base hidden in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter) until 30+ minutes after they're broadcast? It'd make responding to certain thigns nearly impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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