Narf the Mouse Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 First, it needs to do damage. So, an Energy Blast. Second, it needs to have a very small chance of missing. So a CSL: One attack/weapon. Except it's in a VPP with modifiers. And CSL: One attack/weapon can't have modifiers. And it's in a List, so it can't use Linked, either. Help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braincraft Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Re: 'Magic Missile' style spell in a VPP with modifiers AoE One Hex - Accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narf the Mouse Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Re: 'Magic Missile' style spell in a VPP with modifiers Thanks, that looks like it'll work. Still, would be nice to make the spell with an attack bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Re: 'Magic Missile' style spell in a VPP with modifiers Skills are Special Powers and can't be put in Frameworks anyway. Or, not without GM Permission. And to use a CSL with Modifiers use the 5pt Level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narf the Mouse Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Re: 'Magic Missile' style spell in a VPP with modifiers Well, considering I'm making it for games I run... Ok, thanks...But that would still require linked, so you couldn't get a 'magic' OCV bonus to other attacks by casting 'magic missile'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Re: 'Magic Missile' style spell in a VPP with modifiers Well, considering I'm making it for games I run... Ok, thanks...But that would still require linked, so you couldn't get a 'magic' OCV bonus to other attacks by casting 'magic missile'. I'm pretty sure you could do it legally with a Compound Power and 5 pt OCV levels. another thing to ramp up the accuracy is No Range Mod or Line of Sight. Magic Missile type spells are often written up to exploit advantage stacking. You might consider shifting from an EB to a low DC RKA. What Active Point limit are you looking at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Re: 'Magic Missile' style spell in a VPP with modifiers 1D6 RKA plus +5 OCV (25 Points) Both take all the Modifiers requires to go inside the VPP - they occupy a single slot so their combined total Active Points cannot exceed the VPPs Pool Points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narf the Mouse Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Re: 'Magic Missile' style spell in a VPP with modifiers Ok, that might work. Thanks. But company is over, so later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braincraft Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Re: 'Magic Missile' style spell in a VPP with modifiers Magic Missle: RKA 1d6K, Penetrating x2, Autofire (5), 0 END, No Range Modifier, AoE One Hex - Accurate. 75 Active Points. For when you absolutely, positively need to snipe a motorscooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTaylor Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Re: 'Magic Missile' style spell in a VPP with modifiers I prefer the advantage "no normal evasion" or "always hits," in which the attack becomes a stun-only attack and the power must be defined with a way to avoid the attack, but never misses. No attack roll is needed, but you still have to have a direct line of attack (it doesn't become indirect). This is a +1 advantage, and to make it do body damage is an additional +1. Combining with autofire requires an additional +1 advantage to autofire because it is an unusual attack. If you can have NNDs without breaking the game, this works, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Re: 'Magic Missile' style spell in a VPP with modifiers Magic Missle: RKA 1d6K, Penetrating x2, Autofire (5), 0 END, No Range Modifier, AoE One Hex - Accurate. 75 Active Points. For when you absolutely, positively need to snipe a motorscooter. pretty much the same way I'd have done it, with the possible exception of swapping out one level of Pen for Extra Stun Mods, because I'm a munchkin that way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edsel Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Re: 'Magic Missile' style spell in a VPP with modifiers Here is a version of the spell that my Champions Mage has used: Magic Missile: RKA 2d6, Reduced END (½ END; +¼), AOE Accurate (One Hex; +½), Penetrating (x2; +1); OAF (Staff; -1), No KB (-¼), Incantations (-¼), Limited Range (16"; -¼) (82 Active Points) (30 Real Points). Of course you can change out the RKA 2d6 for an EB 6d6 and get the same basic effect. The double Penetrating pretty much guarantees that it will do some real damage vs. just about any foe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper-Man Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Re: 'Magic Missile' style spell in a VPP with modifiers Here are several versions I have posted before: Here's a version of the harder way 32 Magic Missile: Killing Attack - Ranged 1d6, Area Of Effect Accurate (One Hex; only affects accuracy of selective AOE range; +1/2), No Normal Defense ([standard]; +1), Does BODY (+1), Autofire (5 shots; +1 1/2), Area Of Effect (10" Radius; effective range of multiple missiles; +1 1/4), Selective (+1/4) (97 Active Points); 5 Charges (-3/4), Cannot Use Targeting (-1/2), Spell (-1/2), No Knockback (-1/4) - END=[5] edited: and a complete d20 version conversion: 15 Magic Missile - 9th Level Caster: Killing Attack - Ranged 1d6-1, Area Of Effect Accurate (One Hex; Accuracy Of Selective; +1/2), Affects Desolidified Any form of Desolidification (+1/2), No Range Modifier (+1/2), No Normal Defense (Magic Resistance; +1), Does BODY (+1), Area Of Effect (5" Radius; 1 Selective 1 Hex Accurate Missile Per Charge; +1), Selective (+1/4), Autofire (5 shots; +1/2), Non-Standard Attack Power (+1) (72 Active Points); Limited Power (Living Targets Only; -1), 5 Charges (-3/4), Cannot Use Targeting (-1/2), Spell (-1/2), Gestures (-1/4), Incantations (-1/4), No Knockback (-1/4), Limited Range (-1/4) - END=[5] 9 Magic Missile - 1st Level Caster: Killing Attack - Ranged 1d6-1, No Range Modifier (+1/2), Affects Desolidified Any form of Desolidification (+1/2), Area Of Effect Accurate (One Hex; Accuracy Of Selective; +1/2), No Normal Defense (Magic Resistance; +1), Does BODY (+1), Area Of Effect (4" Radius; 1 Selective 1 Hex Accurate Missile Per Charge; +1), Selective (+1/4) (57 Active Points); 1 Charge (-2), Limited Power (Living Targets Only; -1), Cannot Use Targeting (-1/2), Spell (-1/2), Gestures (-1/4), Incantations (-1/4), No Knockback (-1/4), Limited Range (-1/4) - END=[1] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Re: 'Magic Missile' style spell in a VPP with modifiers Mystic Missile The basic build I go with is: Energy Blast xd6 (vs. NND) * Lingering up to 1 Turn (+1/2) * Area Of Effect (One Hex; +1/2), Accurate (+0), * No Range Modifier (+1/2) * Affects Desolidified Any form of Desolidification (+1/2) * No Normal Defense (Shield Spell and Magics based on it, [Force] effects) Standard (+1) * Does BODY (+1) ; 1 Continuing Charge lasting 1 Turn (-1 1/2), Extra Time (Full Phase, Delayed Phase, -3/4), Concentration 1/2 DCV (-1/4), Incantations (-1/4), Gestures (-1/4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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