Lucius Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 It started as an offhand throwaway comment......on 18FEB09 So can I apply Megascale to Growth so that my character measures his height in Astronomical Units? Lucius Alexander As dense as a palindromedary But I couldn't stop thinking about it.... 20FEB09 Hero Designer aside, per Steve Long it is possible to apply Megascale to Stretching. I think he described it as “Silly, but legal.” I didn't expect my little offhand comment to generate so much discussion...but it is admittedly a truly bizarre idea. For the record, I don't seriously think it's technically legal although I suppose the person running the game could allow it. It might require buying Megascale more than once. That is, unless I want to measure my height in astronomical units but my area with regular hexes. Or vice versa. Or can I buy Megascale with volume? What strikes me as weird is that my density would be attenuated. Megascale does NOT apply to mass so I'd be A GAS GIANT Lucius Alexander The palindromedary comments that some of Lucius Alexander's ideas are insanely brilliant, but some of them are just brilliantly insane. Within ten days I'd checked with Steve Long and got a ruling. 28FEB09 I asked Mr. Long and he's officially pronounced it "suspicious" and "ridiculous" but NOT ILLEGAL. It's been about a month since then - and I still haven't actually found a use for this rules abomination. I still don't have a viable - or even non-viable - character concept utilizing Megascale Growth. Maybe even my twisted imagination has limits.... Lucius Alexander The palindromedary is trying to wrap both heads around the idea that this Advantage on this Power is actually potentially legal..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? Well, what first comes to my mind is from an old (1960s) issue of DC Showcase starring the Specter. The Specter was fighting a group of demons, and started growing until he was larger than the planet he stood on, and the demons' weapons passed harmlessly between the atoms of his body. Another issue of that series featured Specter dueling with a powerful demon on an interplanetary scale: grabbing planets and stars to throw at each other, seizing comets by the tail to use like flails to bludgeon each other, and the like. I'm not sure where to go from there, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? There is a world of difference (pun intended) between being able to reach out and touch another planet and being able to rip it out of its orbit. Megascale growth or stretching does not make you any stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? Spoilsport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? Mea culpa. I'm just a grump at the moment. Been sicky-bad-no-well all week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? "Megascale growth, you say. hm?" *The Rose Pounders while fingers stroke his gotee. "If one increased the size by a scale of 1000 and weight by 2, then you effective density is drastically reduced. hm yes." Images come to mind. "Giant human balloon anyone???" It seems unrealistic, even my comic book terms, to grow like that. Lets say you do the classical cartoon version where you inhale air to expand. You will still be taking in a significant amount of weight to cause the expansion. Now if we assume you can do this without taking on air to 'fill in' the rest, then you are creating a void on the inside. By creating the void you are creating a micro version of outer space. So this leads to interesting attacks. "I'll Swallow you whole!" once inside they are experiencing 0 atmospheric preasure and cause damage. Anyway that was mostly just me rambling. Have fun with that idea though. La Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? You can take a look at MegaScale Growth in action at about 2:30 in. Seemed to come in handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? You can take a look at MegaScale Growth in action here at about 2:30 in. Seemed to come in handy. Oh good lord, have these people no shame? How can they put this sort of thing in children's heads? What are they standing on? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobGreenwade Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? Oh good lord, have these people no shame? How can they put this sort of thing in children's heads? What are they standing on? What? Yeah... clearly not the program's finest moment, by a longshot. But then again, much Silver Age superhero TV programming required industrial-strength suspension of disbelief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? Oh good lord, have these people no shame? How can they put this sort of thing in children's heads? What are they standing on? What? Jeez, the same giant turtle that the earth rides on....what kind of schools have they got around your parts (Good ones? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? Jeez' date=' the same giant turtle that the earth rides on....what kind of schools have they got around your parts (Good ones? )[/quote'] Its turtles all the way down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? Its turtles all the way down... Yertle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? Yertle? That's turtles all the way up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StGrimblefig Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? Well, if you gain size, but not mass, it could still be a means of travel from planet to planet: Stand on planet A grow big enough to reach out and grab planet B hold on while shrinking back to "normal" size Put your feet down on Planet B Of course, that doesn't take into account relative planetary motion or rotation. (hmm. how big does one have to get before the rotational speed of the earth has one's head traveling at the speed of light?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted March 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? Well, if you gain size, but not mass, it could still be a means of travel from planet to planet: Stand on planet A grow big enough to reach out and grab planet B hold on while shrinking back to "normal" size Put your feet down on Planet B Of course, that doesn't take into account relative planetary motion or rotation. (hmm. how big does one have to get before the rotational speed of the earth has one's head traveling at the speed of light?) Just thinking about it has my head spinning at the speed of light... Lucius Alexander The palindromedary asserts that Lucius Alexander is simply light headed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted March 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? You can take a look at MegaScale Growth in action.......Seemed to come in handy. what...what WAS that? Lucius Alexander Remind me to never, ever sell the rights to the palindromedary to someone who wants to make a cartoon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split Decision Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? My craziest idea ever is like that, only crazier. Alien in a giant mecha-style robot crashes to Earth. All suit ruined except the mecha's feet. Enormo, the Super Tapdancer yeah, my weirdest moment? Maybe but maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? My craziest idea ever is like that, only crazier. Alien in a giant mecha-style robot crashes to Earth. All suit ruined except the mecha's feet. Enormo, the Super Tapdancer yeah, my weirdest moment? Maybe but maybe not. Tapdancer? I'd sink that idea if I were you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted March 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? Okay. I've got an idea now! I'll post it when it's done. IF it's ever done.... Lucius Alexander The palindromedary predicts that A. The character will be done, eventually, and B. It will probably be an unviable useless exercise in pushing the limits of the system just to see them stretch out of shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSAT Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? I know someone on the boards was doing the Ben 10 ailens. theres one thats big enough to stand on the ground and knock down ships in flight. this might be a realy cheap way to do that growth 1 megascale one always on big honken form only i'll have to check the costs (will post them when i'm done) growth 27 levels 1,024m tall 135 active points growth 1 level w/ mega scale 6 active points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split Decision Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? Tapdancer? I'd sink that idea if I were you. Whenever I come up with a marginal idea, Mrs. Split Decision brings Enormo and compares. It's an all-too-common occurrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? So if you put MegaScale AoE on your Str too, can you affect every hex of a planet at the same time, therefore only requiring enough Str to affect a cubic hex (approx. 8 m^3) of iron (the planet's core) or so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted March 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? So if you put MegaScale AoE on your Str too' date=' can you affect every hex of a planet at the same time, therefore only requiring enough Str to affect a cubic hex (approx. 8 m^3) of iron (the planet's core) or so? [/quote'] Might be worth asking about, but I don't think so.... Lucius Alexander Then again, muses the palindromedary, we didn't think Megascale Growth could fly.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwpacker Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? I know someone on the boards was doing the Ben 10 ailens. theres one thats big enough to stand on the ground and knock down ships in flight. this might be a realy cheap way to do that growth 1 megascale one always on big honken form only i'll have to check the costs (will post them when i'm done) growth 27 levels 1,024m tall 135 active points growth 1 level w/ mega scale 6 active points Of course, megascale growth doesn't give you any of the fantastic bonuses to STR and the like that 27 levels of actual growth would provide, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Re: My Craziest Idea Ever? So if you put MegaScale AoE on your Str too' date=' can you affect every hex of a planet at the same time, therefore only requiring enough Str to affect a cubic hex (approx. 8 m^3) of iron (the planet's core) or so? [/quote'] I reconsidered this in any case. Since the Str is MegaScaled, each "hex" it is acting on would actually be pretty big. So I don't think you really gain much by it, if anything. You'd need a heck of a lot of Str to affect a "hex" worth of dirt, rock, or iron anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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