Ghost Face Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I have not seen what's in the Millennium City sourcebook, so I don't know the exact details behind the destruction of Detroit. I was curious though because I was flipping through my fourth edition book and wondered what happened to the Champions that were on that team and if the members left off that team died in the battle with Dr Destroyer? If they did not die, were they just written out of the continuity? Those members were Seeker, Obsidian, Quantum, Solitaire and Jaguar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreBrute Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Re: History question Those 4 were written out of continuity (or at least out of the Champions), because in the 5th edition the Champions were made after the Battle of Detroit so they couldn't have died in there because they weren't even a team then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Re: History question They were essentially written out of continuinty, as much out of copyrights issue as anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodstone Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Re: History question Don't they actually exist as comic book characters in the Champions Universe? Or is that just Seeker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Re: History question I think that's just Seeker since he was "added" when The Dark Duck refused to liscense himself for the Champions Comic in the CU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenn Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Re: History question What about Flare, Marksman and Gargoyle? Maybe the team name "the Champions" has been used by several groups. James Harmon IV was in the 4th version of the Champions team with Seeker, Obsidian, etc. and then after his team was killed in the Battle of Detroit (he escaped with just his armour destroyed) he found Nighthawk, etc. and founded the fifth edition of the Champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Hawk Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Re: History question What about Flare, Marksman and Gargoyle? Maybe the team name "the Champions" has been used by several groups. James Harmon IV was in the 4th version of the Champions team with Seeker, Obsidian, etc. and then after his team was killed in the Battle of Detroit (he escaped with just his armour destroyed) he found Nighthawk, etc. and founded the fifth edition of the Champions. Flare, Marksman, and Gargoyle (along with Icestar and Giant) were part of the San Fransisco Guardians in 1st edition. When they made the comic book, they were renamed the "Champions" in order to tie into the game better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenn Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Re: History question Flare' date=' Marksman, and Gargoyle (along with Icestar and Giant) were part of the San Fransisco Guardians in 1st edition. When they made the comic book, they were renamed the "Champions" in order to tie into the game better.[/quote'] Okay. I had come in during 3rd, and remember the comic characters almost as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ops Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Re: History question It seems like their Copyright belongs to the Comic Francise now. (Marksman, Flare and Giant´s) Hence they are no longer mentioned. Oh Solitaire is still around these Days ( I think). She just changed her name into Witchcraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balabanto Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Re: History question Yeah. Dennis Malonee really, really screwed Hero. Every day, I pray that a bolt of lightning from the blue will give him a conscience and some honor. And if not, there's always meteors from space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Re: History question Yeah. Dennis Malonee really' date=' really screwed Hero. Every day, I pray that a bolt of lightning from the blue will give him a conscience and some honor. And if not, there's always meteors from space.[/quote'] what did he do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balabanto Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Re: History question The reason why Cryotron is drawn on the back of the 4th edition enemies book and never actually appears inside it is because of Dennis. He wanted to make comic books with the characters, and sued them to retain the rights to his creations. At the time, Hero didn't have things like Cryptic's attorneys, so somehow, Dennis won. About a hundred characters disappeared. Marksman, Flare, Giant, Rose, the Corruptors of All, the Black Enchantress, Doctor Arcane and many others. He even has a version of Foxbat called Flying Fox. And it's EXACTLY the same character. My game is filled with, therefore, tributes to many of these characters. Some of them are vicious and backhanded, others are more subtle. Nonetheless, the thing that annoys me the most about what Dennis did was that in so doing, he effectively created "Negative History" for the history of the game itself. It's like the ABA. (The American Basketball Association) But that's a story in and of itself. The NBA took what they could and ditched the rest. This is the same story, just with Champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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