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Alright... I managed to get near a project, and since it involves a convention that means I may get sucked into said project.

 

I need any and all source material you consider "Steampunk"

 

-Books

-Comics

-Movies (including Anime)

-Music (no, really, whatever you listen to to get 'into the Steampunk mood')

-RPGs

-Television

-Video Games

-Any other medium I forgot

 

I have a really long list already (actually, I have a really long literary list since that's usually my main focus and a moderate Other Media list), and I have a slightly narrowed definition of what I consider Steampunk and the purpose here is to get the whole range on the topic (as some will shuffle Steampunk all the way up to HP Lovercraft), go through it, and start identifying sub-genre, tropes, aspects, and etcetera, blah, et al., so on, such and such.

 

Dystopian, Utopian, and in between. I need everything you would dump into the Steampunk Bucket. I don't need what you consider Steampunk - I need what Source Material you consider Steampunk

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Anime that fall into my definition of Steampunk.

 

Steamboy (movie)

Last Exile

Sakura Wars (OAV)

Sakura Wars (TV)

Sakura Wars 2 (OAV)

Sakura Wars: The Movie

Geo-Armor: Kishin Corps

 

I will try to find book title lists that apply when I get home.

 

It may help us narrow what we send you if we had a better idea of what you consider to be steampunk.... Never mind that last, it helps to read the entire question :o

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It may help us narrow what we send you if we had a better idea of what you consider to be steampunk....

 

Actually - the exercise at the moment is to avoid completely what *I* think of as Steampunk. I need what *you* think of as Steampunk.

 

This is for a Discussion Panel at a convention.

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Actually - the exercise at the moment is to avoid completely what *I* think of as Steampunk. I need what *you* think of as Steampunk.

 

This is for a Discussion Panel at a convention.

 

You beat me to my 'nevermind edit'. :ugly:

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Two more anime. These I have not seen.

 

Patapata Hikousen no Bouken (aka: Adventures of Patapata Aircraft or Secret of Cerulean Sand)

 

Steam Detectives TV 1998

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Horror Hero Resources - Many stories contatined Steampunk elements.

http://www.herogames.com/forums/show...73#post1554773

 

Regency Hero Resources - Very early Steampunk technology

http://herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27221

 

Victorian Hero Resources - The classic source for Steampunk

http://herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30759

 

Western Hero Resources - The Wild WILD West to start with.

http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55990

 

 

Hmmm...

 

 

QM

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A couple of titles off the top of my head

 

Full Metal Alchemist

Final Fantasy IX

League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

most Jules Verne

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Gurps 3rd edition has Gurps Steampunk. Gurps Steamtech and GURPs Screampunk. There's always "Castle Falkenstein"

 

Anime you have "Steamboy"

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Here is a list on Wiki of Steampunk works:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_steampunk_works

 

 

Another Steampunk Essentials list form the Ether Emporium:

 

http://etheremporium.pbworks.com/Steampunk-Essentials

 

A lot of additional links to be found here:

 

http://www.experiencefestival.com/steampunk_-_list_of_steampunk_films

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I have those. I'm more hoping to get your guys Actual Opinions on what YOU consider Steampunk.

 

I have lists coming out of my ears from various sources. But lists are impersonal and sometimes miss stuff.

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I don't need what you consider Steampunk - I need what Source Material you consider Steampunk

 

Emphasis mine....

 

You said you didn't want our opinion just material we considered SP. Hence the lists.....

 

I have those. I'm more hoping to get your guys Actual Opinions on what YOU consider Steampunk.

 

To say why I think the material is SP, is to say what I consider to be SP? :confused:

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What I meant was - give me shows, movies, etc... that you would consider to be Steampunk.

 

But not to give me a list of tropes (like steam mecha, babbage machines, victorian clothing).

 

I truncated the second post a bit, guess I thought I was being clear and I wasn't.

 

Anyways - yes, I have those lists. They are incredibly useful. But I'm looking to see what other people personally consider to be Steampunk Movies, Books, Shows, Comics, Etc just in case those lists miss something, and because I'm curious to see how far the genre spreads in peoples eyes.

 

This is less an exercise in just compiled a list of Media to invest my time in (which is part of it, don't get me wrong) and more an exercise in seeing how far people stretch the boundaries.

 

If you get my meaning.

 

So pardon my not being precisely specific in every single post.

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What I meant was - give me shows, movies, etc... that you would consider to be Steampunk.

 

But not to give me a list of tropes (like steam mecha, babbage machines, victorian clothing).

 

I truncated the second post a bit, guess I thought I was being clear and I wasn't.

 

Anyways - yes, I have those lists. They are incredibly useful. But I'm looking to see what other people personally consider to be Steampunk Movies, Books, Shows, Comics, Etc just in case those lists miss something, and because I'm curious to see how far the genre spreads in peoples eyes.

 

This is less an exercise in just compiled a list of Media to invest my time in (which is part of it, don't get me wrong) and more an exercise in seeing how far people stretch the boundaries.

 

If you get my meaning.

 

Ah so... the light bulb goes on...

 

So pardon my not being precisely specific in every single post.

 

You probably were clear to them that ain't BBS challenged :D

 

But seriously I'll have to think about it and see if I can put thought to screen...

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This is what Steampunk means to ME (which is what the OP is asking for, subjectivity people, not resources!)

Anything set on or around the Victorian era in a near Earth equivalent setting that involves machines that mostly use steam but behave in ways outside of real world physics. These settings may or may not include minor magic.

There should be a rebellious element, against an established authority or government (to be sufficently punky)

 

So,

Michael Pryor's Laws of Magic trilogy (Blaze of Glory : Heart of Gold : Word of Honour)

Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy (Golden Compass, Subtle Knife, Amber Spyglass)

The Girl Genius comic

The Bas Lag books by China Mieville (Perdido Street Station, The Scar, Iron Council)

The Castle Falkenstein roleplaying game and novels.

Victoriana RPG

Space 1889 RPG and radio plays

20,000 Leagues under the Sea by Jules Verne

The League of Extraordinary Gentleman by Alan Moore

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang

Final Fantasy computer games

Arcarna computer game

Bioshock computer game (although it is set in the 20th century)

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I have mixed feelings about the Arcanum game. While it's a fun game, it seems like the creators couldn't decide whether to make it a steampunk game or a medieval fantasy game. They tried to make it both, which didn't work too well, at least for me.

 

However, it has some good ideas, and as I said, it is fun to play.

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Probably way off the reservation but the show Eureka has always felt Steampunk-like to me. Also Professor Fate from The Great Race has a very proto-Steampunk feel.

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I have mixed feelings about the Arcanum game. While it's a fun game, it seems like the creators couldn't decide whether to make it a steampunk game or a medieval fantasy game. They tried to make it both, which didn't work too well, at least for me.

 

However, it has some good ideas, and as I said, it is fun to play.

 

It was quite fantasy - but trains were a big feature, and so was tinkering with gadgets - so I'm giving it the steampunk stamp.

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You want a comprehensive list? The List From Hell?

 

(spoilered for length)

 

 

 

Steampunk (Overview)

Films & TV

20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954), Directed by Richard Fleischer

20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (TV Miniseries, 1997), Directed by Rod Hardy

Journey to the Center of the Earth (1959), Directed by Henry Levin

The Time Machine (1960), Directed by George Pal

Master of the World (1961), Directed by William Witney

The First Man on the Moon (1964), Directed by Nathan Juran

The Island at the Top of the World (1974), Directed by Robert Stevenson

Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water (TV Series, 1990-1991), Directed by Hideaki Anno

Sakura Wars (TV Series, 1997-2001), Created by Ouji Hiroi

 

"Period" Books:

Blake, William; William Blake: The Complete Illuminated Books

Crowley, Aleister; The Collected Works of Aleister Crowley

Dickens, Charles; The Pickwick Papers

Dickens, Charles; Oliver Twist

Dickens, Charles; David Copperfield

Dickens, Charles; A Tale of Two Cities

Yeats, William Butler; The Collected Works of W.B. Yeats

 

Books & Comics:

Blaylock, James P.; Homunculus

Clark, Ronald; Queen Victoria's Bomb: The Disclosures of Professor Franklin Huxtable, M.A.

Di Filippo, Paul; The Steampunk Trilogy: Victoria Hottentots Walt and Emily

Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan; The Lost World

Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan; The Poison Belt

Ellis, Edward S.; The Huge Hunter

Farmer, Philip Jose; The Adventures of the Peerless Peer

Farmer, Philip Jose; The Other Log of Phileas Fogg

Gibson, William, and Bruce Sterling; The Difference Engine

Gourney, James; Dinotopia

Greenland, Colin; Harm's Way.

Hjortsberg, William; Nevermore.

Jeter, K.W.; Infernal Devices: A Mad Victorian Fantasy

Jeter, K.W.; Morlock Night

Moorcock, Michael; A Nomad of the Timestream I: The Warlord of the Air

Moorcock, Michael; A Nomad of the Timestream II: The Land Leviathan

Moorcock, Michael; A Nomad of the Timestream III: The Steel Tsar

Moorcock, Michael (Editor); Before Armageddon (An Anthology of Victorian and Edwardian Fiction Published Before 1914, Volume 1)

Perry, Anne; The Cater Street Hangman

Powers, Tim; The Anubis Gates

Pullman, Philip; His Dark Materials Book I: The Golden Compass (1996)

Pullman, Philip; His Dark Materials Book II: The Subtle Knife (1997)

Pullman, Philip; His Dark Materials Book III: The Amber Spyglass (2000)

Pullman, Philip; His Dark Materials Book IV: Lyra's Oxford (2003)

Rucker, Rudy; The Hollow Earth

Stephenson, Neal; The Baroque Cycle I: Quicksilver (2003)

Stephenson, Neal; The Baroque Cycle II: The Confusion (2004)

Stephenson, Neal; The Baroque Cycle III: The System of the World (2004)

Stephenson, Neal; The Diamond Age

Trow, M.J.; The Adventures of Inspector Lestrade

Verne, Jules; 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and The Mysterious Island

Verne, Jules; A Journey to the Center of the Earth

Verne, Jules; Around the World in 80 Days

Verne, Jules; From the Earth to the Moon and Around the Moon

Verne, Jules; Robur the Conquerer and Master of the World

Wells, H.G.; Food of the Gods and How it Came to Earth

Wells, H.G.; The First Men In the Moon

Wells, H.G.; The Land Ironclads

Wells, H.G.; The Time Machine

Wells, H.G.; War of the Worlds

Willis, Connie; To Say Nothing of the Dog

 

Nonfiction Books:

Nevins, Jess; The Encyclopedia of Fantastic Victoriana

Pool, Daniel; What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew: From Fox Hunting to Whist – The Facts of Daily Life in Nineteenth-Century England

Smith, Adam; The Wealth of Nations

Hill, Thomas E.; The Essential Handbook of Victorian Etiquette

 

Games:

Chadwick, Frank; Space: 1889

Stoddard, William H.; GURPS Steampunk

Other Sources:

Wayne, Jeff; Jeff Wayne's The War of the Worlds (Musical CD)

 

Steampunk Moods

Comedy

Films & TV

The Adventure of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother (1975), Directed by Gene Wilder

Around the World in 80 Days (2004), Directed by Frank Coraci

Around the World in Eighty Days (1956), Directed by Michael Andersen

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (1968), Directed by Ken Hughes

Shanghai Knights (2003), Directed by David Dobkin

Shanghai Noon (2000), Directed by Tom Dey

The Great Race (1965), Directed by Blake Edwards

Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines (1965), Directed by Ken Annakin

 

Books & Comics:

Carroll, Lewis; Alice in Wonderland

Dickens, Charles; A Christmas Carol

Foglio, Phil and Kaja; Girl Genius

Jerome, Jerome K.; Three Men in a Boat

Pollotta, Nick, and James Clay; That Darn Squid God

Whitehouse, Howard; The Strictest School in the World: Being the Tale of a Clever Girl, a Rubber Boy And a Collection of Flying Machines, Mostly Broken (2006)

 

Other Sources:

Gilbert, W.S, and Arthur Sullivan; The Magician

Guinan, Paul; Mechanical Marvels of the 19th Century

 

Horror

Films & TV

Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992), Directed by Francis Ford Coppola

From Hell (2001), Directed by Albert & Allen Hughes

Le Pacte des Loups (The Brotherhood of the Wolf) (2001), Directed by Christophe Gans

Ravenous (1999), Directed by Antonia Bird

Sleepy Hollow (2000), Directed by Tim Burton

Time After Time (1979), Directed by Nicholas Meyer

Van Helsing (2004), Directed by Stephen Sommers

 

Books & Comics:

Aldiss, Brian; Frankenstein Unbound

Edginton, Ian, and Matt D'Israeli Brooker; The War of the Worlds

Edginton, Ian, and Matt D'Israeli Brooker; Scarlet Traces

Edginton, Ian, and Matt D'Israeli Brooker; Scarlet Traces II: The Great Game

Hitchcock, David, Springheeled Jack

Kelly, Joe, and Chris Bachalo; Steampunk: Drama Obscura

Kelly, Joe, and Chris Bachalo; Steampunk: Manimatron

Martens, Andreas; Cromwell Stone

Moore, Alan, and Eddie Campbell; From Hell

Newman, Kim; Anno Dracula.

Poe, Edgar Allen; The Fall of the House of Usher

Poe, Edgar Allen; The Pit and the Pendulum.

Shelly, Mary; Frankenstein

Stevenson, Robert Louis; Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde

Stoker, Bram; Dracula

Wells, H.G.; The Invisible Man

Wells, H.G.; The Island of Dr. Moreau

Wilde, Oscar; The Picture of Dorian Gray

Zelazny, Roger; A Night In the Lonesome October

 

Games:

Barton, William A.; Cthulhu by Gaslight

 

Mystery

Films & TV

The Hound of the Baskervilles (1939), Directed by Sidney Lanfield

Murder by Decree (1979), Directed by Bob Clark

The Scarlet Claw (1944), Directed by Roy William Neill

Sherlock Holmes and the House of Fear (1945), Directed by Roy William Neill

Steam Detectives (TV Series, 1998-1999), Directed by Kia Asamiya

The Woman in Green (1945), Directed by Roy William Neill

Young Sherlock Holmes (1985), Directed by Barry Levinson

 

Books & Comics:

Christie, Agatha; And Then There Were None

Christie, Agatha; Murder on the Orient Express

Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan; A Study in Scarlet

Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan; The Hound of the Baskervilles

Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan; The Sign of Four

Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan; The Valley of Fear

Poe, Edgar Allan; The Murders in the Rue Morgue

Poe, Edgar Allan; Thou Art The Man

Rohmer, Sax; The Insidious Dr. Fu Manchu

Rohmer, Sax; The Mystery of Dr. Fu Manchu

Waid, Mark, Scott Beatty, and Butch Guice; Ruse

 

Romance

Films & TV

Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992), Directed by Francis Ford Coppola

Time After Time (1979), Directed by Nicholas Meyer

 

Books & Comics:

Hernandez, Lea, Texas Steampunk I: Cathedral Child

Hernandez, Lea, Texas Steampunk II: Clockwork Angels

Hernandez, Lea, Texas Steampunk III: Ironclad Petal

Stoker, Bram; Dracula

 

Steampunk Settings

Cyberpunk

Films & TV

Steamboy (2004), Directed by Katsuhiro Otomo

 

Fantasy

Films & TV

Howl's Moving Castle (2004), Directed by Hayao Miyazaki

Books & Comics:

Busiek, Kurt, and Carlos Pacheco; Arrowsmith

Tsang, Adrian, and Pat Lee; WarLands

 

Games:

Baker, Keith, Bill Slavicsek, and James Wyatt; Eberron Campaign Setting

Cook, David, Carl Sargent, and Karen S. Boomgarden; Amazing Engine: For Faerie, Queen & Country

Pondsmith, Mike; Castle Falkenstein

Staroscik, Matt; Iron Kingdoms

 

Western

Films & TV

The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. (TV Series, 1993-1994), Created by Jeffrey Boam and Carlton Cuse

The Quick and the Dead (1995), Directed by Sam Raimi

The Wild Wild West (TV Series, 1965-1969), Created by Michael Garrison

Wild, Wild West (1999), Directed by Barry Sonnenfeld

The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles (TV Series, 1992-1993), Created by George Lucus

 

Books & Comics:

Burroughs, Edgar Rice; A Princess of Mars

Burroughs, Edgar Rice; The Gods of Mars

Burroughs, Edgar Rice; Warlord of Mars

Lansdale, Joe R.; Dead in the West

 

Games:

Hensley, Shane Lacy; Deadlands: The Weird West

 

Superheroes

Films & TV

League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003), Directed by Stephen Norrington

 

Books & Comics:

Amara, Phil, and Guy Davis; The Nevermen

Augustyn, Brian, and Mike Mignola; Batman: Gotham by Gaslight

Davis, Guy; The Marquis

Gaiman, Neil, & various artists; Neil Gaiman's Wheel of Worlds

Houghton, Trainor, and Lovern Kindzierski; The Victorian

Moore, Alan, and Chris Sprouse; Tom Strong

Moore, Alan, and Kevin O'Neill; The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

Morrison, Grant, and Steve Yeowell; Sebastian O

Vance, James, and Ted Slampyak; Mr. Hero, The Newmatic Man

Veitch, Rick, and Paul Jenkins; Teknophage

 

 

 

It's not exactly comprehensive. There's a lot of stuff I left out, and a lot of things I included that I feel are borderline. But that oughta give you a working list. ;)

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See, now I don't regard these as steampunk - they're science fiction. They don't have elements of steam-based technology, nore is there anything of the punk - against the establishment politics-

 

 

 

Films & TV

Journey to the Center of the Earth (1959), Directed by Henry Levin

The Time Machine (1960), Directed by George Pal

 

"Period" Books:

Crowley, Aleister; The Collected Works of Aleister Crowley

Dickens, Charles; The Pickwick Papers

Dickens, Charles; Oliver Twist

Dickens, Charles; David Copperfield

Dickens, Charles; A Tale of Two Cities

Yeats, William Butler; The Collected Works of W.B. Yeats

 

Books & Comics:

Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan; The Lost World

Gourney, James; Dinotopia

Stephenson, Neal; The Diamond Age

- this one deserves an extra special WTF? It's set in the future, concerns nanotech and AIs. The closest it gets to anything vaguely Steampunk is that the main character comes from a community that dresses in styles of the Victorian age and tries to emulate their morals. I mean, really?

 

Verne, Jules; Around the World in 80 Days

Wells, H.G.; The Time Machine

Wells, H.G.; War of the Worlds

Willis, Connie; To Say Nothing of the Dog

 

Nonfiction Books:

Pool, Daniel; What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew: From Fox Hunting to Whist – The Facts of Daily Life in Nineteenth-Century England

Hill, Thomas E.; The Essential Handbook of Victorian Etiquette

 

Other Sources:

Wayne, Jeff; Jeff Wayne's The War of the Worlds (Musical CD)

 

Steampunk Moods

Comedy

Films & TV

The Adventure of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother (1975), Directed by Gene Wilder

Around the World in 80 Days (2004), Directed by Frank Coraci

Around the World in Eighty Days (1956), Directed by Michael Andersen

Shanghai Knights (2003), Directed by David Dobkin

Shanghai Noon (2000), Directed by Tom Dey

Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines (1965), Directed by Ken Annakin

 

Books & Comics:

Carroll, Lewis; Alice in Wonderland

Dickens, Charles; A Christmas Carol

Jerome, Jerome K.; Three Men in a Boat

 

Books & Comics:

Aldiss, Brian; Frankenstein Unbound

Edginton, Ian, and Matt D'Israeli Brooker; The War of the Worlds

Newman, Kim; Anno Dracula.

Poe, Edgar Allen; The Fall of the House of Usher

Poe, Edgar Allen; The Pit and the Pendulum.

Shelly, Mary; Frankenstein

Stevenson, Robert Louis; Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde

Stoker, Bram; Dracula

Wells, H.G.; The Invisible Man

Wells, H.G.; The Island of Dr. Moreau

Wilde, Oscar; The Picture of Dorian Gray

Zelazny, Roger; A Night In the Lonesome October

 

Games:

Barton, William A.; Cthulhu by Gaslight

 

Mystery

Films & TV

The Hound of the Baskervilles (1939), Directed by Sidney Lanfield

Sherlock Holmes and the House of Fear (1945), Directed by Roy William Neill

Young Sherlock Holmes (1985), Directed by Barry Levinson

 

Books & Comics:

Christie, Agatha; And Then There Were None

Christie, Agatha; Murder on the Orient Express

Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan; A Study in Scarlet

Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan; The Hound of the Baskervilles

Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan; The Sign of Four

Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan; The Valley of Fear

Poe, Edgar Allan; The Murders in the Rue Morgue

Poe, Edgar Allan; Thou Art The Man

 

 

Books & Comics:

Stoker, Bram; Dracula

 

Steampunk Settings

Cyberpunk

 

Western

Films & TV

The Quick and the Dead (1995), Directed by Sam Raimi

 

Books & Comics:

Burroughs, Edgar Rice; A Princess of Mars

Burroughs, Edgar Rice; The Gods of Mars

Burroughs, Edgar Rice; Warlord of Mars

 

Superheroes

Films & TV

League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003), Directed by Stephen Norrington

 

Books & Comics:

Moore, Alan, and Kevin O'Neill; The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

 

 

 

Mind you, I've also left off things I haven't seen or read.

Some of them aren't even science fiction - they're straight out horror, or adventure. You're far more lenient on using the genre - applying it to anything that was written during the reign of Queen Victoria or anything about anyone or any style that came from that period. You may as well suggest visiting the great Steampunk Museum, the V&A.

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