Chris Goodwin Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 This thread is for "changes in the rules from previous editions to 6e that are not immediately obvious." Gotchas are minor rule changes that might catch people up if they're not expecting them. For instance: Ego no longer helps defend against Presence Attacks. (It is provided as a GM's option, but isn't the default.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Varying Dimensions is listed in HD for Barrier ,but is not in the description for Barrier in the Power Descriptions part of the book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Because it's not in 6E - it is no longer needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcurrie Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Varying Dimensions is listed in HD for Barrier ' date='but is not in the description for Barrier in the Power Descriptions part of the book[/quote'] And as you were told in the other thread, it will be gone in the next update of HD, which is likely tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcurrie Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Gotchas are minor rule changes that might catch people up if they're not expecting them. For instance: Ego no longer helps defend against Presence Attacks. (It is provided as a GM's option, but isn't the default.) Mental Powers no longer provide Mental Awareness for free; it must be purchased. This is probably obvious but it might catch some; Entangle can no longer be used to create a barrier. Some may get caught up by the removal of Growth Momentum and Stretching Momentum damage from Shrinking and Stretching, respectively. Due to the change from game inches to meters, various combat and martial maneuvers divide velocity by 10 or 6, rather than 5 or 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Ok so it is a left over from HDv3 for 5th guess Dan needed to follow his own advice about rekeying when updating from 5th to 6th Because it's not in 6E - it is no longer needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Ok so it is a left over from HDv3 for 5th guess Dan needed to follow his own advice about rekeying when updating from 5th to 6th I know this may come as a shock to people, but not even Dan is perfect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Mental Powers no longer provide Mental Awareness for free; it must be purchased. This is probably obvious but it might catch some; Entangle can no longer be used to create a barrier. Some may get caught up by the removal of Growth Momentum and Stretching Momentum damage from Shrinking and Stretching, respectively. Due to the change from game inches to meters, various combat and martial maneuvers divide velocity by 10 or 6, rather than 5 or 3. You know, I think I am going to mildly buff the ones that divide by 6, have them divide by 5 instead, easier to do the math IMO, and just seems more natural to me (plus it will be rare that it accounds for more than a die of difference (every 30 meters of movement or so) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here it was more the pot calling the kettle black I know this may come as a shock to people' date=' but not even Dan is perfect...[/quote'] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Mental Defense no longer adds in EGO/5 as additional defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here it was more the pot calling the kettle black Whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here it was more the pot calling the kettle black Excuse you? I don't believe anyone in this thread has tossed an insult your way. I don't think you want to go down the road you just started on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcurrie Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Excuse you? I don't believe anyone in this thread has tossed an insult your way. I don't think you want to go down the road you just started on. He's referring to Dan's recommendations that people start fresh when creating characters for 6e, while Dan himself seems to have edited the 5e template to create the 6e one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archermoo Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here He's referring to Dan's recommendations that people start fresh when creating characters for 6e' date=' while Dan himself seems to have edited the 5e template to create the 6e one.[/quote'] Well, since the two aren't particularly related it seems a bit of a non sequitur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Goodwin Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Since I started this thread I'm going to police it a bit. Everyone calm down, take a deep breath, have a frosty beverage, and relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolgroth Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Can I have a warm beverage instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here *hands Nolgroth a fresh cup of Chai* The change in Life Support costs for immunities to Disease and Poisons was a pleasant surprise. If it was discussed in SETAC I forgot completely about it until I saw the rules and went "win!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibear Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Moving fire no longer gives you a -1 ocv. (give a guy a break I don't have SIX yet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here I'd just like to say I'm very angry indeed. I haven't decided what about, but I'll be sure to let you know when I do. Is it just me or are we perhaps not giving the benefit of the doubt about comments that may not be intended as derogatory? I've got caught up in arguments in the past over the phrasing of things I've taken a dislike to, and it is rarely ever intentional on the other party's part, or at least not meant to be snide, as I've interpreted it to be. Generally when someone is genuinely having a go it is obvious because they won't bloody shut up about it. Anyway, 'gotchas': I'm surprised that 'Blast' is now a special power and therefore can not be placed in frameworks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Anyway' date=' 'gotchas': I'm surprised that 'Blast' is now a special power and therefore can not be placed in frameworks.[/quote'] Are we placing bets on how many people check and correct you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Waters Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Are we placing bets on how many people check and correct you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhamin Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here I know this may come as a shock to people' date=' but not even Dan is perfect...[/quote'] You shut your mouth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here The Hardened Advantage no longer protects against all of Armor Piercing, Penetrating, and Indirect. This now requires the separate Advantages Hardened (for AP), Impenetrable, and Counteracts Indirect (for Barriers "and other obstacles"). Shoring up your defenses against uncommon attacks just became a whole lot more expensive (oh, and Armor Piercing is now less expensive)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexus Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Rapid Attack no longer allows a Full Move and Attack instead it allows the character to perform a multi attack as a half phase action instead of a Full Phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestidigitator Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 Re: Post "gotchas" here Rapid Attack no longer allows a Full Move and Attack instead it allows the character to perform a multi attack as a half phase action instead of a Full Phase. Oh. That's not the way it worked in 5ER? I could swear dropping Sweep/Rapid Fire to a Half-Phase action was all it ever did. Hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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