Doc Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Hi everybody, I just got a flash this evening and I created this character form an old idea I had a year ago or so. She's a drow blade dancer, one could say a manga style drow fighter. Here's a link to a Lineage II video somewhat representative of what I mean: I built her dungeon style, even though I prefer surface dwelling dark elves, such as in Records of Lodoss War. I also used Killershrike's equipment list, even though for only one item. I don't have a very complex or complete background to offer, but I imagined her in the service of a fallen but clever drow lord seeking revenge and final victory, serving as her agent, bodyguard, assassin, etc. I'm posting her here in order to get feedback about my character creation skills, as I don't believe them to be as good as I'd like to. Please feel free to offer your deifferent views on how I could have built her more efficiently, or less costly, etc. Thank you very much! I hope you'll enjoye it. So here it is: 12 STR 10 2 STR Roll: 11- 20 DEX 10 30 DEX Roll: 13- 13 CON 10 6 CON Roll: 12- 13 BODY 10 6 14 INT 10 4 INT Roll: 12- 14 EGO 10 8 EGO Roll: 12- 20 PRE 10 10 22 COM 10 6 4 PD 2 2 4 ED 3 1 4 SPD 3.0 10 5 REC 5 0 30 END 26 2 30 STUN 26 4 Run: 8" Swim: 2" Leap: 4" PER Roll: 12- Powers Pts. END Psychology 9 Deep Loyalty: Fearless (14 Active Points); Only when protecting her Lord (-1/2) 3 Deep Loyalty: Resistance (5 points) (5 Active Points); Only not to betray her Lord (-1/2) Dancer Habilities 3 Pain Resistant - Trained Dancer's Body: Damage Resistance (4 PD/4 ED) (4 Active Points); Can't stop the first point of Body on a killing attack (-1/2) Drow Magical Habilities 47 Darkness: Darkness to Sight Group 3" radius, Conforming (+1/2), No Range Modifier (+1/2), Indirect ( Any origin, any direction; +3/4) (82 Active Points); 1 Recoverable Continuing Charges - Once per day lasting 1 Turn (-3/4) 5 Dancing Lights: Sight Group Images 1" radius, Conforming (+1/2), Indirect ( Any origin, any direction; +3/4) (22 Active Points); 1 Recoverable Charges - Once per day (-1 1/4), Only To Create Light (-1), Set Effect - 4 globes of light (-1) 9 Dancing Lights: Sight Group Flash 2d6, No Range Modifier (+1/2), Area Of Effect (3" Radius; +1), Continuous (+1) (35 Active Points); 1 Recoverable Charges - Once per day (-1 1/4), Conditional Power AoE always centered around Faery Fire (-1/2), Conditional Power Only works against underdark creatures (-1/2), Linked (Dancing Lights; -1/4), Lesser Power can only be used when character uses greater Power at full value (-1/4) 5 Faerie Fire: Sight Group Images 1" radius, Affects Desolidified Any form of Desolidification (+1/2), No Range Modifier (+1/2), Indirect ( Any origin, any direction; +3/4) (27 Active Points); 1 Recoverable Charges - Once per day (-1 1/4), Only To Create Light (-1), Set Effect - Highlight target (-1), Limited Power No AoE - One target only (-1) Drow Natural Habilities 5 Darkvision: Nightvision 3 Dark Elf Curse - Loss of Immortality: Life Support (Longevity: 800 Years) Skills Pts. Dancing skills 3 Acrobatics 13- Impressive Dancing 3 Breakfall 13- Gracefull Tumbling 3 Contortionist 13- Dancer Body 3 PS 13- Dancer 10 +2 with Dancing Mistress of the Art Dance of Death 3 Analyze: Combat 12- Veteran Fighter 9 +3 with blade dancing Expert Blade Dancer 4 Penalty Skill Levels: +2 vs. Hit Location modifiers with blade dancing Movement Precision 5 Defense Maneuver I-II Spinning Dance 3 Fast Draw 13- Saber Dance 5 Rapid Autofire Furry of the Blades 5 Rapid Attack (HTH) Always in Movement 10 Two-Weapon Fighting (HTH) Deadly Grace 1 WF: Blades Blade Dancer Drow Skills 0 Lipreading 8- Silent Hunt 0 Lockpicking 8- Just a Drow 0 Shadowing 8- Intrigue Dweller 0 Sleight Of Hand 8- Just a Drow 3 Stealth 13- Creatures of Darkness 0 CuK: Surface Elves (Drow Perspective) 8- Forsaken Cousins 0 AK 8- Underdark 0 Streetwise 8- Survival of the Fittest 0 Survival 8- Underdark Social Training 3 Conversation 13- As Fascinating as Death 3 Disguise 12- Lies of Appearances 3 High Society 13- Drow Highborn 3 KS 12- Drow Politics 4 CuK: His feelings, his personality, his ambitions 13- Understand Lord and Master 0 Language (completely fluent; literate) (4 Active Points) Drow 4 Language (completely fluent; literate) Any 3 Language (fluent conversation; literate) Any 3 Persuasion 13- Won't Take 'No' as an Answer 3 Seduction 13- 'Dance with me' Talents Pts. 6 Combat Luck (3 PD/3 ED) Too Fast to be Hit 3 Lightning Reflexes: +2 DEX to act first with All Actions Faster than her Shadow 17 Combat Sense (Sense) 12- Underdark Fighter 7 Deadly Blow: +1d6 ([limited circumstances - Only when blade dancing]) Fatal Dancer 89 : Powers Cost 132 + Skills Cost 96 + Characteristics Cost 317 = Total Cost Base OCV: 7 Base DCV: 7 Adjustment+ Adjustment+ Final OCV: Final DCV: Levels: +3 with blade dancing Roll: DCV: 4 14- 5 13- 6 12- 7 11- 8 10- 9 9- 10 8- Roll: DCV: 11 7- 12 6- 13 5- 14 4- 15 3- 16 2- 17 1- Name Phase OCV DCV Effect Block 1/2 +0 +0 Block, Abort Brace 0 +2 1/2 +2 vs. Range Mod. Disarm 1/2 -2 +0 Can disarm Dodge 1/2 --- +3 Abort, vs. all attacks Grab 1/2 -1 -2 Grab two limbs Grab By 1/2 -3 -4 Move and Grab Haymaker 1/2* +0 -5 +4DC to attack Move By 1/2 -2 -2 STR/2 + v/5 Move Through 1/2 -v/5 -3 STR + v/3 Set 1 +1 +0 Ranged attacks only Strike 1/2 +0 +0 STR or weapon Range 0-4 5-8 9-16 17-32 33-64 65-128 RMod 0 -2 -4 -6 -8 -10 DEX: 20 SPD: 4 ECV: 5 Phases: 3, 6, 9, 12 4 PD (4 rPD) 4 ED (4 rED) MD: 0 END: 30 STUN: 30 BODY: 13 Roll Location STUNx NSTUN BODYx To Hit 3-5 Head x5 x2 x2 -8 6 Hands x1 x1/2 x1/2 -6 7-8 Arms x2 x1/2 x1/2 -5 9 Shoulders x3 x1 x1 -5 10-11 Chest x3 x1 x1 -3 12 Stomach x4 x1.5 x1 -7 13 Vitals x4 x1.5 x2 -8 14 Thighs x2 x1 x1 -4 15-16 Legs x2 x1/2 x1/2 -6 17-18 Feet x1 x1/2 x1/2 -8 Character Information Height: 1.78 m Hair: White Weight: 60.00 kg Eyes: Red 1 Disadvantages Pts. 15 Distinctive Features: Drow (Concealable; Extreme Reaction; Detectable By Commonly-Used Senses; Not Distinctive In Some Cultures) 15 Physical Limitation: Blinded by Daylight (Infrequently, Greatly Impairing) 10 Psychological Limitation: Obedience to her Lord (Very Common, Total) 25 Psychological Limitation: In love with her Lord (Very Common, Total) 25 Psychological Limitation: Get sorrowful when separetad too long from her Lord (Uncommon, Strong) 10 Reputation: Death Dancer, 14- 15 Social Limitation: Serving a fallen Lord (Frequently, Major) 15 XP 0 Base Points : 202 Disads Total + 115 Experience Spent + 0 Total Cost = 317 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panpiper Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Re: Drow Blade Dancer Something odd about your character there, as you have clearly used Hero Designer to build it, but it seems to have not included the cost of the extra two inches of running and leaping (6 points). There is obviously a lot of thought given here to being faithful to a character conception, and that is a good thing. Indeed for many game masters, they would delight in characters created with such a devotion to their conception without focusing on their combat potential. That said... I must say, for a 317 point character (323 if running and jumping get paid for), this 'war dancer' is not a very good fighter. Yes, she has a Dex of 20 and a Speed of 4, which are the essential 'starting' stats for such a character. But then, other than 3 combat skill levels,, really minimal resistant defenses and a Deadly Blow that puts the damage into what I would expect coming from a 100 point character, there is very little here to make her exceptional. Again, for some GMs running a very low powered game, this might be perfectly fine. But I don't know any GMs running such a low powered games that would have characters built with over 300 points. Were I creating such a character, I would very strongly consider some martial arts maneuvers, as it is quite hard for me to imagine a war dancer without such enhanced maneuvers. Also, most dancers I've known are extraordinarily strong, while this dancer is so weak, she couldn't add a damage class with her Strength to even a short sword. Consider buying some hand to hand combat levels with a -1 limitation on them 'Only for DCV' and call it 'Melee Awareness', which will help compensate for the relatively low resistant defense on the 300+ point character. Finally, while the Drow magical abilities might make some sense from a character conception point of view, they seem to me to be a huge amount of points spent on a couple non lethal grenades; a flash grenade and a smoke grenade. I'm not quite sure what you were trying to achieve there. I look at the points spent there and see a lot of martial maneuvers, strength, combat levels, etc., that were 'not' bought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Holck Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Re: Drow Blade Dancer I don't know what conforming is? Drow are a matriarchal society Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Re: Drow Blade Dancer Were I creating such a character' date=' I would very strongly consider some martial arts maneuvers, as it is quite hard for me to imagine a war dancer without such enhanced maneuvers.[/quote'] Yeah, I didn't put some in because this is a part of the system I really don't get yet. Guess I got some work to do here... Also' date=' most dancers I've known are extraordinarily strong, while this dancer is so weak, she couldn't add a damage class with her Strength to even a short sword.[/quote'] The reason why I built her this way is because I don't see her as really physically powerful; her deadlyness (in my mind, if not on paper...) comes from her technique more than her muscles; I don't see her thorwing boulders on her way... Maybe I should by some more deadly blow levels or to buy additional STR as a power with a limitation in order for it to count only for damage? Finally' date=' while the Drow magical abilities might make some sense from a character conception point of view, they seem to me to be a huge amount of points spent on a couple non lethal grenades; a flash grenade and a smoke grenade. I'm not quite sure what you were trying to achieve there. I look at the points spent there and see a lot of martial maneuvers, strength, combat levels, etc., that were 'not' bought.[/quote'] Drow are a matriarchal society Yeah, there are some inconsistencies in the character because I built her as a classical DND drow while I thought of her more like a Lodoss, Lineage or other manga style dark elf. I could change the race of her lord to fix, but the problem about the costly magical habilities pointed at by Panpiper wouldn't get better for that (moreover, with a, say, human lord, I'd fear the character would more or less become just some rip off of Lodoss' Pirotess). I think I'll just get rid of the magical habilities; she just won't be a DND drow anymore. Thanks to you both; I'll wait for some other comments and I'll work the character again in order to make her more powerfull/less costly, and then, I'll post her again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steph Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Re: Drow Blade Dancer i agree with panpiper for 317 pts the character can be a better fighter............and my problem with the character is ........the dnd style drow all the drow power is too much expensive............for the form you can take one power of that list to symbolise the fact that is a underdark creature but you have to take some martial art skills with sword anyway on se voit jeudi pour la partie stef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Holck Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Re: Drow Blade Dancer indirect no range modifier darkness could be fun with clairsentience on N-Ray Vision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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