Egyptoid Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 How many different ways can an election be rigged in the average supers universe? my thoughts so far: Candidate could be “Manchurian”. Voting machines can be hacked. Electors could be mindless drones; Voters could be mindless drones. News Networks can be hacked, controlled, or bamboozled. Candidate could be an illusion, construct, proxy, robot, or alien shapeshifter. (DK2) White House completely replaced by _____ type of construct. Constitution can be amended to make any of the above easier or unnecessary. more? (please, save witty observations for the NGD, thanks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squall Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions A Madrox/Multiple Man type supervillain, set up with a bunch of false IDs, either spamming election centers or running for multiple offices across the country. Supervillains/VIPER/whatever bullying or intimidating folks away from voting. More of a fallout after an election than an actual rigging of it, but the electronic voting machines could infect people with a techno-virus, hypnotize them, or something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions Summon 100 million slavishly loyal - each with shape-shift (Imitation) - Slavishly loyal with 1 command - vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Hawk Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions Summon 100 million slavishly loyal - each with shape-shift (Imitation) - Slavishly loyal with 1 command - vote Villian, after election results: Addendum: Vote for Who I tell you to vote for next time! And for more fun, Mind Control, area effect, one command, "Vote for Me!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrad Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions LOL, how about a villain with a really big duplication power casting A LOT of votes Or maybe a villain with a really big cosmetic transform to alter A LOT of ballots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torchwolf Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions Necromancer candidates could always use the old standby to get all the dead people to vote, but might have a problem in some districts when they find out the hard way that the dead people have already cast their votes somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions In the 1978 book The Better Angels by Charles McCarry, a pair of "Foreign Intelligence Service" operative used a computer to change the outcome of the 1996 Presidental Election. The motivation was that the half brother of the operative was the President's Chief of Staff, and had major idealogical differences with the other candidate. This book was made into the 1982 movie Wrong is Right. In 1995 a sequel came out called Shelley's Heart, which set the election to 2004. In it the other party candidate, a former U.S. President himself, discovers the plot, and confronts the current president one day before he is to be sworn in. The director of the FIS was his appointee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualplayer Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions EDM to where I won. Precognition to know where to campaign when, put out fires before they even flare up, know exactly what steps to take on the path to the presidency. Power Behind Throne type Powers where you get someone elected and they appoint you to a position close at hand. Weather Control, because some people won't wait in the rain to vote. Cyberkinesis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions Precognition to know where to campaign when, put out fires before they even flare up, know exactly what steps to take on the path to the presidency. This would make a great power-set for a super-team mentor (and/or behind-the-scenes type contact) to get any campaign rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions EDM to where I won.And assasinate the version of you that did all the hard work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions And assasinate the version of you that did all the hard work? Now that's a wicked twist! 'Course it depends on how EDM works. A Sensate or Signer from a Planescape campaign (both believing that reality only exists relative to an observer) might say there is no other version of you... that all that is real is formed in the mind via the senses... or that they are the center of the multiverse and that you only exist because they imagined you into existence. Either way it could be rationalized that EDM is not about abandoning one reality for another (because no other exists) but about modifying this reality into being different somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions Now that's a wicked twist! 'Course it depends on how EDM works. A Sensate or Signer from a Planescape campaign (both believing that reality only exists relative to an observer) might say there is no other version of you... that all that is real is formed in the mind via the senses... or that they are the center of the multiverse and that you only exist because they imagined you into existence. Either way it could be rationalized that EDM is not about abandoning one reality for another (because no other exists) but about modifying this reality into being different somehow. Naturally, relative reality paradigms are solipsistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions Naturally' date=' relative reality paradigms are solipsistic.[/quote'] Naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ockham's Spoon Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions Who needs an election? The Master villain has his superteam engage in highly destructive acts of terrorism, often disguised as other supers and even some heroes (might as well smear some names in the process). The president is forced to declare martial law to deal with the metahuman threat and, by previous political manipulation, finds the best candidate to wage the war on metahumans is Jim Smith (which happens to be the Secret ID of the Master villain). The Master villain now has carte blanc to do almost anything he wants as a matter of national security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions Time your supervillainous rampage right before the polls so that the frightened and angry public will vote for the guy who promised to clamp down on mutants, little knowing that's your secret identity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted May 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions much like point levels and AP limits affect other powers discussions, I suppose an underlying question to this scenario is How much does the average supervillain fear the populace, or govt, or army? Does backlash matter? in some campaign worlds, an election rigger would have to be oh-so careful, oh-so subtle. and in others, a ham-fisted approach might work alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted May 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions “They put creatures in our bodies, and we voted socialist!” == Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Re: Rigging Elections in Champions Well, seems like mind-controlling the other guy into sounding like a bumbling idiot during a debate, or into picking a patently unsuitable VP nominee, would be the least labor-intensive approaches. The one thing you don't want to do is win by an unreasonably large margin, like 80-20. Unless you're Chondorr the Conqueror, in which case that would be perfectly reasonable. HAIL CHONDORR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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