Nolgroth Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? Oh neat, "WhateverPunk," a multi-genre punk gaming system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BvBPL Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? “Let’s see. You’ve got 13 points in cybernetics, a 15 pt dirigible, and a 20 pt Babbage accounting computational device. Oh, and a 13 pt Mohawk.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? So I'm guessing we've completely discussed the subject of dieselpunk and now all that remains is the conflict between curmudgeons who so despise the word "punk" they dismiss anything with a -punk suffix out of hand and youth who are less interested in dieselpunk than in trying to explain that times have changed, so get over it? I'd like to see/hear more on the original topic and perhaps if the Not-Punk-but-Pulp crowd would oblige, they could move that discussion to another thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolgroth Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? You forgot those of use who have no feeling about a -"punk" suffix other than using it as a way to be sarcastic and smarmy. I actually am somewhat interested in both Steampunk and Dieselpunk. I am less interested in Cyberpunk but that is because I believe the first two I mentioned almost seemed designed from the ground up to be gaming genres while the latter is a literary genre that folks have tried to pigeonhole into a gaming genre. The end results of which have been mixed, at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? Steampunk was a literary genre before it was gaming! I will send Jeter around to hit you with a dirigible! P.S. - the first Steampunk book was Morlock Nights. You want unnecessary suffixes? Try music: Trancecore Hardcore Speedcore Terrorcore Noisecore Bitcore Splittercore Doomcore Breakcore and yet, I can identify all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolgroth Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? First of all, what's up?! I did not know Steampunk was a literary genre. Thanks for the clarification. As to the music thing, YOU would be able to. Last I heard, your music collection was hovering somewhere around a gazillion petabytes in size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? It was, it sort of limped along from the late 80s to the earl 2000s with barely any entries, then kind of exploded in the last decade in pretty much every direction you can think of. But yeah, the idea and term started out with books. Like most good things do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? The War Wheel is dieselpunk. (Warning: NSFW Language) Likewise the huge amount of uncompleted and/or rumored advanced projects the Nazis had going by the end of that conflict means there's a long list of fantastic contraptions the heroes (pulp, superheroic or other) may encounter in a dieselpunk setting. I'd go so far as to say that keeping dirigibles in play for very long after the Hindenberg should've dampened everyone's enthusiasm for all things dirigible to the point that the word "Blimp" had to be coined to distinguish them from those other, highly-flammable vehicles, (pauses for breath) counts as dieselpunk, along with battleship-sized supertanks, rocket packs and flying saucers. Yes, it's pulp, but with a bit of modern perspective brought into the creative process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost-angel Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? A good working use of Dieselpunk vs Pulp Pulp is what they imagined their tech and aesthetics would look like going into the future Dieselpunk is us imagining our tech and aesthetics shoved into the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? Wasn't the War Wheel shown in an episode of JLA (the one where they end up in WWII Europe)? and IIRC, the term "blimp" was coined before the Hindenburg's explosion. Blimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? Wasn't the War Wheel shown in an episode of JLA (the one where they end up in WWII Europe)? and IIRC, the term "blimp" was coined before the Hindenburg's explosion. Blimp I think there were some War Wheels in an episode I can't remember well except they went back in time and fought in WWII. About the blimp, I guess I should use more smileys next time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe_rS_vFndA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted October 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? That's a cool video, SSgt Baloo! Now let's talk submarines. British M class submarine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? Pulp and steampunk overlap, but "pulp" is usually used to refer to action/adventure stories of the era, and imitators of said stories, while Dieselpunk is less about how stories of the actual time portrayed advanced technology than it is about taking interwar technology and assuming it gets super capable. For example you'd never a gasoline powered giant robot in actual pulp. Their giant robots would be battery or atomic powered. Likewise Barsoom's aerial vessels don't go chug-chug-chug... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSgt Baloo Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? That's a cool video, SSgt Baloo! Now let's talk submarines. British M class submarine It's a sad story whenever a vessel sinks with all hands. Cool sub, though! Repped. Didn't France have a "battlecruiser submarine" with two turrets prior to WWII? More examples of dieselpunk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJQdkB0t8T4 When I was growing up there was a copper or brass ashtray that sat on our mantelpiece wherever we lived. It was a souvenir of the 1933 World's Fair at Chicago. Dunno which family member obtained it first, or how. I'm pretty sure some of these cars might qualify as "Dieselpunk" Not definitive, but I think this has possibilities Certain aspects of Batman TAS are dieselpunk-flavored I really liked the art-deco vehicles and settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted October 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Re: Dieselpunk? A sad announcement: The Gatehouse Gazette will be ending its run next issue. Submissions are still being accepted. Read about it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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