Egyptoid Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 A Fifth Edition Convention Game Where I want to gather up medium power builds of some of Marvel's Mightiest Heroes. Some of the obvious choices are there: Iron Man, Hulk, Dr.Pym, Thor. But some of my favorites are in the mix also: Hawkeye, Wonder Man, Mantis. Here's the site: Avengers The Supers are ten men and ten women. My goal is to have convention ready character sheets for all 20, and run the first session at Marscon. And encourage female players to try Hero. I'm hoping the recent good movies will give my plan a kickstart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions I'm using some of Susano's excellent website for starters. He and others have done excellent work already, so I am (lazy) not going to rewrite what is well written. I'm using the simplest convention-ready, newbie-friendly export format I can find from hero designer for the character sheet. Other writeups I'm getting from GNBORH, and a few other places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions My goal is accessibility and familiarity. I've got scads of appropriate Heroclix, old MSH area maps, and have DMed Hero off and on for years. Plus who didn't watch Avengers Movie and get excited about Heroics again ? I welcome any critiques of the sheets I post, and any ideas for the game. Squirrel Girl is the only one posted so far. (Click on the word CONVEN) to see the sheet layout I have in mind. If someone has a better HDE file, please send it to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Ms. Marvel Val Char Cost 50 STR 40 18 DEX 24 25 CON 30 10 BODY 0 13 INT 3 11 EGO 2 20 PRE 10 18 COM 4 20 PD 10 20 ED 15 4 SPD 12 15 REC 0 50 END 0 48 STUN 0 Total Characteristics Cost: 150 Points Cost Skills 17 Danger Sense [sense] 13- 3 FB: Federal Police Powers 2 FB: USAF Officer 3 Tactics 12- Total Skills Cost: 25 Points Cost Powers 10 Damage Resistance 10 rPD 10 rED 6 END +10 STUN +5, Only When Hit By Non-Magic EB (-1/2), OIHID (-1/4) 12 EC [Energy]-15 Points, OIHID (-1/4) 20 1) EB [Light] 8d6 10 2) Flight 10", Variable Advantages (+1/2), [Megascale [1km], or 1/2 END Only (-1/4)] 3 ES: PER +1 7 ES: RPT, IAF: Avengers Communicator (-1/2) 7 Transform: Instant Change [One Set of Clothes] Total Powers Cost: 75 Points Total Cost: 250 Points 150+ Disadvantages 5 DF: USAF Officer (Easily Concealed/Noticed) 10 Hunted: The Avengers Enemies (As Powerful) 8- 10 Hunted: Ms. Marvel Enemies (As Powerful) 8- 10 Hunted: USAF (More Powerful/NCI/Watch) 8- 15 PsyL: Overconfidence (Very Common/Moderate) 20 PsyL: Protective Of Innocents (Very Common/Strong) 10 SocL: Secret Identity [Carol Danvers] (Occasionally/Major) 10 SocL: Subject To USAF Orders (Occasionally/Major) 10 Vuln: Magic, 1 1/2x STUN (Common) Total Disadvantages Cost: 250 Points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper-Man Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Here's a link to a 350 point 5e version of Thor I posted a few years ago. http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php/71427-Thor-s-Hammer-Mj%C3%B6llnir?p=1793463#post1793463 (This version actually builds his hammer as a Focus) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyber624 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Not sure about this one by any means but are you sure you are okay running Avengers in HERO in a public forum like that? DC has been known to be rapid about their IPs in the past and some convention organizers might therefore be gun shy about letting you run a Non-Marvel Avengers game. Might want to check with the organizers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted November 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions A) I put up my take on Moonstone AKA Meteorite. Also I swapped in Moon Knight to reduce the number of bricks. Holy cow Cassandra, if I knew you pressuring you to do characters was that easy I'd have bugged you a long time ago. Thanks. C)also a good Thor. I like elsewhere in thread where the hammer is built as a Vehicle! D) .... letting you run a Non-Marvel Avengers game. Might want to check with the organizers. Your question (and its wording) confuses me. Besides, they run Marvel and DC heroclix in public forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyber624 Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Sorry about that. It wasn't really a question, more of a suggestion. Running copywritten IP's can be troublesome in some venues. Heroclix is licensed by DC and Marvel for the characters they use. As are the DC and Marvel RPGs themselves. HERO, however, does not have any licenses for their characters. While I personally don't have a problem with it, and honestly think it is kind of stupid, I have witnessed issues in the past where gun shy Convention organizers have banned the use of unlicensed reproductions of copy written IP's due to fear of repercussions from the owning company. DC/Marvel have in the past been rather rabid in attacking anyone using their IP's without a license and I have SEEN Convention runners get scared of it. (One of the small conventions in the south where I lived even tried to ban homemade costumes referencing owned IP's one year.) Just stating that you might either want to double check with the convention organizers or bring a back up plan, just to be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions I like building character, Egyptoid. I have templates for all types. Look at my past post for a Thor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Here's the roster from my web page. MAN CAVE: - CPT.AMERICA : HDC : - THOR - : HDC : as Mod by Hyperman ideas. - HULK - : HDC : - IRON MAN - : HDC : - HAWK-EYE - : HDC : - ANT-MAN - : HDC : - VISION - GNB - MOON KNIGHT - ??? - BLACK PANTHER - : HDC : - STAR-FOX - GNB + my own campaign LADIES ROOM: - BLACK WIDOW - : HDC : - SCARLET WITCH - GNB - WASP - : HDC : - MANTIS - ??? - MS. MARVEL- : Cassandra Dunnit - SHE-HULK - : HDC : - METEORITE - done - SQUIRREL GIRL done - MOCKING-BIRD - GNB - {TBD, See Poll}- TBA HDC means I have a working Hero-Designer file of said hero. from either me or Susano Surbrook GNB means the Sysabend GNBORH site has a write-up I like. ??? means I have not found a write-up of said hero online, nor in my vast collection. "Done" means the sheet I like is on my page (link below), but I do accept critiques. Also I have to eventually format the sheet into a numbers-lite newbie-friendly format for the con. And these are ~350 point 5th editions versions of the team. so thanks for any input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Okay Cassandra, I put up Ms. Marvel here. Its 95% what you wrote. But I had to add things from other sources. I read a lot of Ms.Marvel comics and Avengers, so I felt I had to add more details. Which of course ups the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Jim Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions For Moon Knight you could just change some names on a Batman write up you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Moonstone/Meteorite/Ms. Marvel Val Char Cost 50 STR 40 18 DEX 24 25 CON 30 10 BODY 0 13 INT 3 11 EGO 2 20 PRE 10 18 COM 4 20 PD 10 20 ED 15 4 SPD 12 15 REC 0 50 END 0 48 STUN 0 Total Characteristics Cost: 150 Points Cost Skills 3 Conversation 13- 3 Paramedic 12- 2 SS: Medicine 11- 2 SS: Psychology 11- Total Skills Cost: 10 Points Cost Powers 10 Damage Resistance 10 rPD 10 rED 40 Multipower (40 Points) 3 u) Desolid [Light], Concentrate 1/2 DCV (-1/4) 4 u) EB [Light] 8d6 3 u) Flash [sight] 3d6, AE 2"r (+1), Personal Immunity (+1/4) 2 u) Mental Illusion 8d6, OAF: Hallucinogenic Gas (-1) 1 u) Transform: Instant Change [Any] 7 ES: RPT, IAF: Communicator (-1/2) 20 Flight 10", Variable Advantages, [Megascale [1km], or 1/2 END Only (-1/4)] Total Powers Cost: 90 Points Total Cost: 250 Points 150+ Disadvantages 20 Hunted: SHIELD (More Powerful/NCI) 8- 20 Hunted: The Avengers (More Powerful/NCI) 8- 20 PsyL: Greedy (Very Common/Strong) 15 PsyL: Overconfidence (Very Common/Moderate) 15 PsyL: Thrillseeker (Common/Strong) 10 SocL: Secret Identity [Dr. Karla Sofen] (Occasionally/Major) Total Disadvantages Cost: 250 Points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions 2 u) Mental Illusion 8d6, OAF: Hallucinogenic Gas I did not know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Karla used it to get the Moonstone from the original owner. I thought it would be an effective tool. Her any Instant Change lets her change between her Moonstone, Meteorite, and Ms. Marvel (Dark Reign) costumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingly Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Here's a Moon Knight write-up that I did way back. Probably 4th Ed. Forgive the formatting. Val Chr Max Pts Pts Power Pts Skill/Perk 20 STR 20 10 20 Martial Arts 5 Rich 20 DEX 20 30 Punch +0 +2 +3d(7d) 20 CON 20 20 Kick -2 +1 +5d(9d) 3 Acrobatics 13- 15 BOD 20 10 Block +2 +2 3 Breakfall 13- 18 INT 20 8 Dodge +5 3 Climbing 13- 18 EGO 20 16 Throw +0 +1 +1d+v/5 3 Stealth 13- 20 PRE 20 10 3 Pilot 13- 14 COM 20 2 4 +1 DC 8 PD 8 4 18 +6 w/ Martial Arts 3 Combat Sense 13- 5 ED 8 1 1 KS: Martial Arts 3 Programming 13- 4 SPD 4 10 2 KS: Konshu 11- 8 REC 10 6 Running +3" 3 Streetwise 13- 30 END 50 -5 3 High Society 13- 40 STN 50 5 15 +9 DEF (15- OIF: --- Kevlar Costume) 7 +2 Overall (only 121 24 Gadget Pool under a full moon) --- --- 88 41 Usual Gadgets: Occasional Gadgets: 6: +3 DC 2: +4 Binoculars 7: 2 Smoke Grenades (Nunchucks) (0 DCV) (last 1 minute) 11: 1d RKA autofire 12: 1.5d Penetrating (2 hexes) 8 recoverable RKA; 4 rec'able 10: 2d STUN drain (throwing crescents) (full phase) ranged (blowgun) 2: Gliding 5" (cape) (crossbow) (4 charges) 100+ Disadvantages 20 Normal Max 10 Girlfriend 20 H: VIPER 11- 20 Protective/Innocents 15 Secret ID 5 Prof Rival 15 H: Bushman 8- 15 Honorable 5 Rep: rich (Midnight) 15 H: Drug lords 8- 10 Vengeful History: Marc Spector became rich through his mercenary activities; after all, he was one of the best. While on assignment is Egypt, he was killed by his partner, Bushman. Konshu, the Egyptian god of vengeance, and also one of three gods of the moon, brought Spector back to life to bear the mantle of Moon Knight, his agent on Earth. Bushman has since become president-for-eternity of a small African country. Spector has invested his ill-gotten wealth, and donates large sums to charities. By doing good, Spector tries to atone for his evil past. Tactics: Marc will never take a life himself, but may work alongside those who do, under the right circumstances. Marc prefers to work silently. If a bunch of agents need to be taken out, he'll sneak up to them and pick them off one by one, using his martial arts. Against more powerful foes, he will usually punch until they're stunned, then kick them with his levels into +d6. He will use acrobatics to keep the enemy off guard, perhaps doing some surprise flips to land behind them. Against _really_ powerful foes, once they're stunned, he'll use his levels to place a kick to the head. Personality: Marc is an idealist. He believes that every life is important. "I died once. You wouldn't like it." He does believe that Konshu raised him, even though it may not be true. Sometimes he resents being yanked around by Konshu. Marlene: Marc's girlfriend, Marlene, knows his ID. She has been with him since he became Moon Knight. For a while, she was trying to talk him out of playing soldier, but now she's cooled down, and even seems to want to help him in his crimefighting. Midnight: Marc's rival, Midnight (Jeff Wilde), is the son of a dead archenemy. Midnight wants to be teamed up with Moonie, but is only 16, and knows just enough to get himself into real trouble. He's almost a DNPC, but Jeff learned all of his father's thievery skills, and also knows Marc's ID. To prove his talent to Marc, he originally broke into several corporations of which Marc is a major stockholder, and left clues to implicate Marc. So, while he's not quite in Marc's league, he can't be totally disregarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted November 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Also, I have posted Captain America. Keep in mind as you critique. These are for a convention game, possibly the only session. So not everything has to "balance" or make sense or honor every era of the comics. The character just has to work for a while. And thank you all, I have repped until the stick went dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Mockingbird Val Char Cost 15 STR 5 20 DEX 30 18 CON 16 11 BODY 2 18 INT 8 14 EGO 8 20 PRE 10 18 COM 4 7 PD 4 7 ED 3 4 SPD 10 7 REC 0 36 END 0 28 STUN 0 Total Characteristics Cost: 100 Points Cost Skills 3 Acrobatics 13- 3 Breakfall 13- 6 Combat Luck +3 rPD +3 rED 3 Conversation 13- 3 Criminology 13- 3 Deduction 13- 3 Disguise 13- 3 Fast Draw 13- 3 FB: Federal Police Powers 3 Lockpicking 13- 4 Martial Block 4 Martial Dodge 4 Martial Strike 3 Martial Throw 5 Offensive Strike 3 Security Systems 13- 3 Shadowing 13- 10 SL: Overall +1 3 Stealth 13- 3 Streetwise 13- Total Skills Cost: 75 Points Cost Powers 10 Armor +5 rPD +5 rED, OIF: Costume (-1/2) 15 Multipower (30 Points) OAF: Battle Staves (-1) 1 u) EB 6d6 [Physical] 1 u) FF +5 rPD +5 rED, No END (+1/2) 1 u) HA +2d6, HTH Attack (-1/2), No END (+1/2) 1 u) Leaping 10", No END (+1/2) 3 ES: Nightvision, OIF: Mask (-1/2) 7 ES: RPT, IAF: Avengers Communicator (-1/2) 27 Multipower (20 Points) No END (+1/2), Use Simultaneously (+1/2), OIF: SHIELD Flying Car (-1/2) 3 u) Flight 10" 3 u) Flight 8", Megascale [1km] (+1/4) 3 u) Running +5", 8x NCM Total Powers Cost: 75 Points Total Cost: 250 Points 150+ Disadvantages 10 Hunted: Avengers Enemies (As Powerful) 8- 10 Hunted: SHIELD (More Powerful/NCI/Watch) 8- 20 NCM 20 PsyL: Code Versus Killing (Common/Total) 10 PsyL: In Love With Hawkeye (Uncommon/Strong) 20 PsyL: Protective Of Innocents (Very Common/Strong) 10 SocL: Secret Identity [barbara "Bobbi" Morse Barton] (Occasionally/Major) Total Disadvantages Cost: 250 Points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted November 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions How could I forget Hercules ? Okay: Informal Poll, on this roster, which guy would you bump in favor of Hercules ? Remember, the Avengers are brick-heavy. I already bumped Wonder-Man for that reason. You know. I might bump Captain America, and make him the NPC that yells at the PCs. Hmmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions okay I posted Hawkeye (from Susano I think) Next I work on the lovely Mockingbird from the lovely Cassandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted November 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Also I posted Iron Man; but I am totally disgusted with it. Its a nice hero build, but I want something real easy to read, good for a potential newbie to pick up and roll with. do not fret Cassandra, if you post an iron man, I will examine your build for merits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted December 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions but I am totally disgusted with it. I am starting over. I played with my Avengers HDE file to make it work better. There are now almost no numbers on the sheet. Here's Captain America again Here's Ms.Marvel . Again. And Thor, again. Et tu, Hawk-eye ? and Mockingbird Revamped Iron Man up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted December 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Cassandra to answer your question: Tigra, Black Widow, Vision, Hulk, Mantis, Ant-Man, Yellow-jacket, Scarlet Witch, Black Panther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions Got up Moonstone aka Meteorite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egyptoid Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Re: The Avengers Project for Champions And now: Sersi, but she won't see the light of day since all the doo-doo heads are voting furry. Also She-Hulk And Wasp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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