Old Man Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 3 hours ago, csyphrett said: He's old and people break down when they are old. It happens. Ask Old Man CES I don't think I waited until I was old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 You can buy land on Mars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Starlord said: You can buy land on Mars Is capitalism such a reflex by now, that we feel we need to buy everything we see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted August 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 1. How is the vendor legally allowed to sell you this piece of property? 2. How do you enforce your claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, tkdguy said: 1. How is the vendor legally allowed to sell you this piece of property? 2. How do you enforce your claim? The deed to your property costs $50-500. You have to contract separately with NASA for the $87 billion to put a "No Trespassing" sign on it. Lord Liaden, Lawnmower Boy and Duke Bushido 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted August 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, archer said: The deed to your property costs $50-500. You have to contract separately with NASA for the $87 billion to put a "No Trespassing" sign on it. Still the same thing as buying the Brooklyn Bridge. pinecone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 Major explosion in Lebanon. Saw this on the news. For once not terrorist related. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-53656220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, tkdguy said: Still the same thing as buying the Brooklyn Bridge. Not at all. NASA doesn't service the Brooklyn Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 NASA may not service Mars, either. China is staking a claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 It is a lot cheaper to put a No Trespassing sign on the Brooklyn Bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Explosion in Beirut, over 50 fatalities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: NASA may not service Mars, either. China is staking a claim. isn't there a treaty in place that deprives Earth nations of the ability to arbitrarily claim a celestial body, whole or in part, as their sovereign territory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 My wife and I bought a square inch of Abraham Lincoln's farm. The deed cost $5 a few decades ago. The owner of the 35 acres was selling it one inch at a time. You're actually purchasing permanent "access" to the land rather than the land itself. But the deed was a neat enough souvenir to be worth the price to us. I guess I could argue in the court that for "my" Mars property that I should have the permanent right to access the property, even if they someday make a landing pad out of it or dump their toxic wastes there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Michael Hopcroft said: isn't there a treaty in place that deprives Earth nations of the ability to arbitrarily claim a celestial body, whole or in part, as their sovereign territory? Yes, there is. China is not a signatory to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted August 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Sounds like that hard SF campaign I posted on the Star HERO forum years ago is beginning to take shape. First reaction: Hey cool, I was right! Second reaction: Oh crap, I was right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 5 hours ago, tkdguy said: Explosion in Beirut, over 50 fatalities I'd be surprised if this event doesn't generate many hundreds of fatalities. This is the kind of explosion where people just cease to exist. The mind boggles at the kind of stupidity required to store literal kilotons of ammonium nitrate in a city center for six years. Like if I was touring a warehouse and some dude told me "here is where we keep our pile of 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate", I'd be on my way to the airport. You'd think people in Beirut would be a little more knowledgeable about the dangers posed by explosives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Old Man said: I'd be surprised if this event doesn't generate many hundreds of fatalities. This is the kind of explosion where people just cease to exist. The mind boggles at the kind of stupidity required to store literal kilotons of ammonium nitrate in a city center for six years. Like if I was touring a warehouse and some dude told me "here is where we keep our pile of 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate", I'd be on my way to the airport. You'd think people in Beirut would be a little more knowledgeable about the dangers posed by explosives. Hey hey hey. Explosives aren't dangerous sitting around. They're only dangerous when they explode! I'm sure the owners didn't plan on all that fertiliser exploding, so no worries! Old Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 This happened in Texas back in 2013... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Drug-Smuggling Cat Escapes High-Security Sri Lankan Prison https://www.thedailybeast.com/drug-smuggling-cat-escapes-welikada-prison-high-security-sri-lankan-prison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 12 hours ago, Old Man said: I'd be surprised if this event doesn't generate many hundreds of fatalities. This is the kind of explosion where people just cease to exist. The mind boggles at the kind of stupidity required to store literal kilotons of ammonium nitrate in a city center for six years. Like if I was touring a warehouse and some dude told me "here is where we keep our pile of 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate", I'd be on my way to the airport. You'd think people in Beirut would be a little more knowledgeable about the dangers posed by explosives. 7 hours ago, Lawnmower Boy said: Hey hey hey. Explosives aren't dangerous sitting around. They're only dangerous when they explode! I'm sure the owners didn't plan on all that fertiliser exploding, so no worries! This would segue nicely into a study of Epistemic Responsibility -- the idea that we are responsible for the things we believe as well as what we do. I have no doubt the operators of the factories had talked themselves into believing storing that stuff would be same. Now that this has happened, they are obviously blame-worthy for their carelessness, but would they have been equally blame-worthy if the storage facility never exploded? We may have a version of Hitchen's Razor in action ("What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 9:27 AM, death tribble said: That is unfair. To the Australians...... It was the lack of gorgeous Hispanic maidens that lead future generations of Australians to be so cranky and their land so full of venomous terrors. Texas is just right. I just asked the Hispanic maiden I married and she approves this message. Pariah and Lawnmower Boy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 5, 2020 Report Share Posted August 5, 2020 Stranded giant pandas running out of food, Calgary Zoo says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 8/5/2020 at 12:16 AM, Michael Hopcroft said: isn't there a treaty in place that deprives Earth nations of the ability to arbitrarily claim a celestial body, whole or in part, as their sovereign territory? Like that would stop China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 8/5/2020 at 5:07 AM, Old Man said: I'd be surprised if this event doesn't generate many hundreds of fatalities. This is the kind of explosion where people just cease to exist. The mind boggles at the kind of stupidity required to store literal kilotons of ammonium nitrate in a city center for six years. Like if I was touring a warehouse and some dude told me "here is where we keep our pile of 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate", I'd be on my way to the airport. You'd think people in Beirut would be a little more knowledgeable about the dangers posed by explosives. So, smoking would be a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Is it ever a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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