SteelCold Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Thinking about that: When sales are low and writers have hit a wall, have the heroes fight each other! In short, don't stop whatever you were doing for years already as comic book writers always hit their empty heads into walls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 I would not characterize heroes fighting heroes as lazy writing or desperation to drive up sales--I would say it's more of a tradition, going back to the Golden Age when the original Human Torch fought the Sub-Mariner in one of their earliest adventures. Usually it's because one or the other heroes has been mind-controlled, or it's the result of a gargantuan misunderstanding--like in Avengers #2, when the newly formed team faces off against--The Space Phantom-- --whose shapeshifting abilities far exceed that of the Skrulls. Taking the form of the Hulk, he attacked the other Avengers and caused all sorts of havoc, taking their forms as well, causing them to fight each other until he tried to take Thor's form, and was banished to Limbo himself-- One of the hero vs. hero stories that really made an impression on me was the DC Treasury issue Superman Vs. Wonder Woman-- Set in World War II, it has Wonder Woman determined to prevent the success of the Manhattan Project, and Superman determined to stop her. For the first time I saw a story where the heroes actually had a reason to fight each other--no mind control, and no mistakes. I did not see this again until Superman fought Batman in the last issue of Frank Miller's Dark Knight mini-series. It even happens in RPGs. I remember in Aaron Allston's Strike Force book where the team splits into two over the issue of lethal force, with one team becoming the Shadow Warriors and another remaining as Strike Force. Player vs. player conflict is always a possibility, even if your players aren't playing "murder hobos." Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 I would not characterize heroes fighting heroes as lazy writing or desperation to drive up sales--I would say it's more of a tradition, going back to the Golden Age when the original Human Torch fought the Sub-Mariner in one of their earliest adventures. Yes, it is definitely a tradition thing by now. Or as LOSRH puts it, introductions: http://superredundant.com/?comic=133-introductions Kirby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 want to know what out of place means try being a pulp style hero in an outer space campaign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 All Mexican Superheroes are Wrestlers. Kirby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 All Mexican Superheroes are Wrestlers. ...and vice-versa, but that part goes without saying. Kirby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 ...and vice-versa, but that part goes without saying. But, wait! Does that mean "All wrestlers are Mexican Superheroes" or "All Mexican Wrestlers are superheroes?" Inquiring minds want to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAppleseed098 Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I'm highly certain he meant the second option you proposed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Female Mexican Superheroine Wrestlers will eventually battle Aztec Mummies and Aztec Robots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 But, wait! Does that mean "All wrestlers are Mexican Superheroes" or "All Mexican Wrestlers are superheroes?" Inquiring minds want to know! "Whichever works best for your campaign..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCold Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Too bad all the Mexican Supervillain Wrestlers are in the WWE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 one minute being a super hero is the world's biggest kick the next it's a kick in the pants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 super heroes fight crime NOT EACH OTHER bigdamnhero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 super heroes fight crime NOT EACH OTHER They are not fighting each other. They are doing proper Introductions: http://superredundan...3-introductions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 An island of immortal beautiful women will not allow men to visit.. Cancer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 You can't fight in the war room. Lucius and BoloOfEarth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCold Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 For once can't the Earth invade an alien planet? "EARTH NEEDS ZONDARKLONIAN WOMEN!!!" BoloOfEarth, Doctor Agenda and Kirby 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Impudite Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 An island of immortal beautiful women will not allow men to visit.. ...And a man will wash up on shore anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 If your DNPC is alone unguarded in a cage the bars will be electrified with a paralyzing current. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Chloroform is widely available in a superhero universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Chloroform is widely available in a superhero universe. And works instantaneously, or else it Drains all Characteristics/Powers/Martial Arts for the 5-10 seconds it does take to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba smith Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 sorry if i'm repeating myself better to live and have weird powers than be dead altogether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 And works instantaneously, or else it Drains all Characteristics/Powers/Martial Arts for the 5-10 seconds it does take to work. There is real life chloroform, and the chloroform used in Comic Books and Soap Operas (and Lifetime Movies). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Tom 2009 Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 The Spandex Dilemma*: the idea that, if you put on a spandex costume and call yourself a hero, your luck will guarantee one of two things happening to you. You'll find yourself in a position where you'll either cause a crisis or prevent one. *I got this from a story at Fanfiction.net called "A Third Path to the Future" written by vimesenthusiast. Major Tom 2009 Kirby and bubba smith 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 If you go undercover at a mental hospital you will be injected with a drug by a nurse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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