Marvel Cinematic Universe, Phase Three and BEYOOOOONND

[Doc Shadow 510]

Technically I believe this is a phase four movie. Phase three ends with Avengers: Endgame. Anything that comes out after that is phase four.

 

Time for a new thread!  

[Ternaugh 1,450]

I know what you're thinking. "Is this Phase four or only three?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself.

[Bazza 3,349]

We don't know if there is a Phase 4. Nothing about Marvel Studios plans about it have been officially released. 

 

Edit: and if we don't need a new thread, we can ask a mod to rename this one. It's cozy. 

[Old Man 8,666]

Some official plans about Phase 4 have been released.

[Pattern Ghost 2,077]

5 minutes ago, Old Man said:

Some official plans about Phase 4 have been released.

 

I don't know about you, but I"m really looking forward to  Untitled Movie.

[Scott Ruggels 244]

On 1/9/2019 at 5:24 PM, zslane said:

 

Actually, not completely true. At best that is an oversimplification.

 

American studios, and Disney especially, still regard the American audience/box office as the single most important, even if it doesn't represent the largest source of revenue. It may not make much sense--just like the inexplicable influence of RT scores on studio decision making--but that's the way it is (at the moment).

 

 I would have to agree about the bizarre influence of RT, but also more importantly Metacritic,  Much as it has kind of warped the Video Game Industry, it's also having something of an influence on films as well. I believe the influence is outsized, as is RT.

[Scott Ruggels 244]

if I remember, Shang Chi was pretty good, but it's good run started about the end of where I started looking at Superheroes. Soon after the Chris Claremont run of the X-Men started.

[Christopher R Taylor 3,277]

Shang Chi was all right, story wise, but it had beautiful art most of its run, which made the book a pleasure to read.

[zslane 1,680]

I presume you're referring to the version of Shang Chi who can make duplicates of himself Jamie Maddrox style?

[Grailknight 316]

Shang-Chi was at its best in the Gulacy storylines where he was an MI-6 agent.

[Starlord 3,033]

With all this Phasing, you'd think things would be a little more transparent.

 

 

 

 

[Greywind 1,832]

Vision wasn't.

[Old Man 8,666]

7 hours ago, Starlord said:

With all this Phasing, you'd think things would be a little more transparent.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm waiting until Phase 12, because that's when the action really starts.

[Old Man 8,666]

Black Panther has been nominated for seven Academy Awards including Best Picture.

 

[zslane 1,680]

I predict Black Panther will win one Academy Award, and it won't be for Best Picture. But, hey, it's an honor just to be nominated, right? Especially if you are a superhero movie.

[Ranxerox 422]

2 hours ago, zslane said:

I predict Black Panther will win one Academy Award, and it won't be for Best Picture. But, hey, it's an honor just to be nominated, right? Especially if you are a superhero movie.

 

I would think that it would pick up best costume design and best production design.

[zslane 1,680]

It isn't nominated for costume design. But it is nominated for production design. I predict that it will either get that one, or Best Score.

[Ranxerox 422]

3 hours ago, zslane said:

It isn't nominated for costume design. But it is nominated for production design. I predict that it will either get that one, or Best Score.

 

Yes, it is.

https://oscar.go.com/nominees/costume-design

[Scott Ruggels 244]

On 1/15/2019 at 6:49 PM, Christopher R Taylor said:

Shang Chi was all right, story wise, but it had beautiful art most of its run, which made the book a pleasure to read.

 Well, I am "The Art Snob".

[Christopher R Taylor 3,277]

The production design was quite good -- that's usually the best part of most every movie made these days, even if the story or acting sucks.  Even the dreadful Noah looked great.  I kind of question their polyglot conglomeration of just random "black culture" design stuff rather than giving the nation its particular cultural and ethnic feel, but people liked it.  You'd think a country so isolated and insular would have its own very specific style and design not just "whatever from everywhere,"

[Starlord 3,033]

I assume that was because it was a nation made up of half a dozen distinct tribes.

[Christopher R Taylor 3,277]

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I assume that was because it was a nation made up of half a dozen distinct tribes.

 

Well that could be part of it, but I mean they had Caribbean influences and Afro-American influences, and Egyptian influences, etc.  I would have liked the design better if they'd been a bit less grab bag and more creative.

[Ranxerox 422]

6 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said:

 

Well that could be part of it, but I mean they had Caribbean influences and Afro-American influences, and Egyptian influences, etc.  I would have liked the design better if they'd been a bit less grab bag and more creative.

 

The in-universe explanation is that Wakanda despite there outward display of isolationism has quietly been culturally influential in Africa for centuries due to being Africa's most affluent and stable nation.  So, these aren't Caribbean, Afro-American and Egyptian influences that have made there way to Wakanda, this are Wakandan influences that have spread to the Caribbean, Egypt and even America.

 

The out-of-universe explanation is that the movie makers were pursuing a Pan African/Afrofuturism vision and settling on one country or region of Africa to draw their influences from would have been picking a favorite and as such at odds with that vision. 

[Christopher R Taylor 3,277]

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The out-of-universe explanation is that the movie makers were pursuing a Pan African/Afrofuturism vision and settling on one country or region of Africa to draw their influences from would have been picking a favorite and as such at odds with that vision. 

 

And it would have been too challenging to come up with something completely unique -- or at least, not worth their time and effort.  Plus I think it was an appeal to American viewers, many of whom think of "Africa" as a country with a single culture rather than thousands of cultures and dozens of nations.

[Ranxerox 422]

Well, yes, coming with unique is really, really hard.  However, in this case it would need to be both unique and still have a definite "African feel" to it, and that would be even harder.  So, hey, sample like a hip-hop record.