Ranxerox Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 14 hours ago, L. Marcus said: Basically a cross between Colour and Tarkovskij's Stalker. So, I haven't read or even heard of Tarkovskij's Stalker prior to this. Am I missing out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 I've never seen it myself, but it's a bit of a Soviet cinema masterpiece, apparently. It's on YouTube, the whole two and a half hours of it. Ranxerox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 The danger is that poor writers think "strong woman" means "dude with hooters" rather than writing parts that are female. We're not interchangable, each of us have our strengths and weaknesses. Lee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Spence said: True, but I hope they don't go full idiot mode and break the pendulum by swinging too far. I enjoy movies with strong female leads and strong male leads. I just want them to make sense within the context of the movie. I've watched movie where the actors male or female were simply not believable in the role. More movies and TV shows with well cast female leads is good. Plugging in female actors just to pander or check a block on a PC checklist will just lead to bad shows and careers. This discussion makes me think of Legend of Baggar Vance. I enjoyed the movie but you could tell that every part with Charlize in it was added in (her character did not appear in the original book) and didn't quite fit with everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 The diversity agenda has a tremendous amount of socio-political momentum right now. We appear to be in the early "restitution" phase in which the disenfranchised call out for the social majority (i.e., straight white males) to make up for all the years/decades/centuries of unfair cultural supremacy. I don't think that centering the pendulum is what they really want; they want to enjoy a period in which the pendulum is swung way over to their end before conceding to a balanced middle ground of equitability. Ranxerox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Yes and no. But then we are getting into politics. So I won't expand publically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bazza Posted August 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Howard the Duck is a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 4 hours ago, zslane said: The diversity agenda has a tremendous amount of socio-political momentum right now. We appear to be in the early "restitution" phase in which the disenfranchised call out for the social majority (i.e., straight white males) to make up for all the years/decades/centuries of unfair cultural supremacy. I don't think that centering the pendulum is what they really want; they want to enjoy a period in which the pendulum is swung way over to their end before conceding to a balanced middle ground of equitability. Personally I have no problem with more emphasis on strong woman characters in movies, including multiples of them. In this case I'm just concerned that Portman, Thompson and Alexander's characters together would be so similar in their motifs and visuals that they would seem redundant. (To be honest, I found the "assembled female Avengers" scene in Endgame too overt in making a point. But many women viewers loved the scene, so perhaps its point needed making.) Trivia tidbit: Tessa Thompson was also a principle cast member in Annihilation alongside Natalie Portman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Also, local cutie Tuva Novotny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, L. Marcus said: Also, local cutie Tuva Novotny. I can see why you like her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Well, she's local and a cutie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zslane Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 10 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: Personally I have no problem with more emphasis on strong woman characters in movies Nor I. Strong, ass-kicking female protagonists are a favorite of mine. To be clear, the diversity push isn't just a female thing. You can tell when it is a driving force when a movie's cast seems too diverse, to the point of contrivance. There's no place on Earth that I'm aware of where there is an exact even percentage of each and every race and gender combination in its society/community, and so when a movie puts "one of each" into the main cast, well, one can't escape the sense that it is purely a diversity play rather than a reach for verisimilitude. Spence and Armory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Yeah when the cast of characters looks like a college guidebook cover, you know they were picked for physical appearance, not talent or character. Its just as dumb to cast all white dudes because you don't think girls can do the job or some other lame reason. Spence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Yeah when the cast of characters looks like a college guidebook cover, you know they were picked for physical appearance, not talent or character. Its just as dumb to cast all white dudes because you don't think girls can do the job or some other lame reason. Exception: If the characters are in medium where pretty much everyone looks good and the team is internationally comprised, then by all means they should look like a college guidebook cover (see Len Wein and Dave Cockrum's X-Men for an example). Edit: Also Star Trek bridge crews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDU Neil Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Is this real? Just saw it posted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 According to the comments, it's a rumor, but from someone who successfully predicted some other stuff for upcoming Phase 4 movies ahead of Marvel's announcements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 That would be an interesting way to introduce Namor, although Wakanda seems to be landlocked so curious how they'd really interact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 In the books, Namor destroys Wakanda while possessed by a piece of Phoenix Force. There were several reprisals back and forth after that. No idea what would cause them to come to blows in the film, but odds are Namor will be a bad guy in BP2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingly Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Old Man and L. Marcus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Namor should definitely start as a bad guy, if they use him. They might be hesitant because of Aquaman doing well and being basically patterned after Namor to save him from being the orange dork who talks to fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 IMPERIUS REX! Oh, by the way I'm the oldest Marvel superhero.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 35 minutes ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Namor should definitely start as a bad guy, if they use him. They might be hesitant because of Aquaman doing well and being basically patterned after Namor to save him from being the orange dork who talks to fish. Sorry. Namor came first. Fishboy came second. And he'll always be the orange dork who talks to fish. Starlord and zslane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 20 minutes ago, Greywind said: Sorry. Namor came first. Fishboy came second. And he'll always be the orange dork who talks to fish. Only a vanishingly small percentage of humans knows, or cares. As far as the rest of them are concerned, Aquaman has already been in theaters for three years and two films, and Namor will be the copycat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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