Ternaugh Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Bazza said: So no one other than me read Plato's Timaeus or Critias which introduces the sci-fi story of Atlantis? My point is that unlike folklore or mythology which has no clear author, the story of Atlantis does. We know when and by who the story originated. So, you're saying that Aquaman and Namor are just fanfics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ternaugh said: So, you're saying that Aquaman and Namor are just fanfics? Nope. The copyright expired on Plato's works and thus can be used however others see fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 We have thousands of years between Plato and present day. In that time many parties built up speculation and fiction around the concept of Atlantis, far beyond what Plato wrote or intended, to the point that its concept and associations have long since passed into the public consciousness. I would argue that despite its specific origin, Atlantis has evolved into "folklore." Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 34 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: We have thousands of years between Plato and present day. In that time many parties built up speculation and fiction around the concept of Atlantis, far beyond what Plato wrote or intended, to the point that its concept and associations have long since passed into the public consciousness. I would argue that despite its specific origin, Atlantis has evolved into "folklore." Fair enough, good point. And true. The whole notion of the "lost continent" has echos back to Atlantis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 Really? And what if Atlantis truly did exist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 What is this “if”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Christopher R Taylor Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Oh, there are thousands of other ways the ending of GOT could have sucked. In truth the ways to write something well are the tiny minority of options. ScottishFox and zslane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Rumor report: Did Ant-Man 3 really get cancelled? https://apple.news/APcv07tmQTOKDKl8sNvLE4g ”The Ant-Man films introduced the technology that made it possible for the Avengers to travel through time and acquire all of the Infinity Stones before Thanos could (in Avengers: Endgame); for that matter, if Lang hadn't been freed from the Quantum Realm by the timely intervention of a rat, the universe would be toast.” i wonder how many times Dr Strange saw that rat? Is the rat the unsung hero of Earth? Should he be made an Avenger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 I heard the plan was to take Ant-Man to Disney+ where they'd get 6 hours instead of 2 on the big screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Bazza said: i wonder how many times Dr Strange saw that rat? Is the rat the unsung hero of Earth? Should he be made an Avenger? The van was in a big-city impound garage. What are the odds a rat wasn't going to walk through it? Lawnmower Boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 AIUI people who live in SF had trouble believing it would take five years for a rat to step on the button. Matt the Bruins and Lawnmower Boy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Old Man said: AIUI people who live in SF had trouble believing it would take five years for a rat to step on the button. Maybe that was the problem. Maybe in most of the other 14 million possible time lines, the rat stepped on the button too early and missed Scott as a result. Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 It's a little more involved than that. Ant-Man had to be in the quantum realm to be guaranteed shielded from the effects of the "snap." If Thanos had obtained all the Infinity Stones later than he did, Scott would already have gotten out of the realm, so even if he survived the snap he wouldn't have realized the temporal effect of the quantum realm. If Thanos snapped earlier Scott wouldn't have had the chance to enter the realm in the first place -- same outcome. Dr. Strange had to give Thanos the Time Stone when he did, so the timing of the snap would be exactly right. You could rationalize that as the reason why Strange kept fighting Thanos when he must have foreseen he couldn't win. He had to delay Thanos gaining the Stone to the right moment. drunkonduty, ScottishFox, Old Man and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Thanos’ plan in Avengers: Infinity War has historical precedent, but he applies it wrong https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/4/17319992/thanos-plan-avengers-infinity-war-historical-precedent-science-malthus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Christopher R Taylor Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 Yeah, like Mathus he was an imbecile, plus a mega mass murderer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zslane Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 Somehow I doubt anyone is going to be in a rush to pat Iger on the back for being more "woke" than Perlmutter, except maybe Iger himself (and whatever team of suckups he's surrounded himself with over at Disney). Christopher R Taylor and ScottishFox 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 I don't know about woke, but the reports were that Feige had to ask for Perlmutter to be forced out because he was trying to back the inhumans because they couldn't use the xmen, wouldn't do any movie with a solo woman or ethnic hero, and was essentially getting in the way without knowing anything about the process. Is this guy really that terrible? I asked myself. It turns out Perlmutter doomed his inhuman television show before it could even get started. He's terrible. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 There's no denying that Perlmutter and Loeb are both sub-par hacks as producers go, but the tweet from MCU Direct makes it all about how they put up roadblocks to Black Panther and Capt. Marvel, painting Iger as the woke hero of Marvel's diversity push. The fact that it was a tweet could be partly responsible for that (not much room to elaborate), but I think they put the focus exactly where they wanted regardless. Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 hours ago, zslane said: There's no denying that Perlmutter and Loeb are both sub-par hacks as producers go, but the tweet from MCU Direct makes it all about how they put up roadblocks to Black Panther and Capt. Marvel, painting Iger as the woke hero of Marvel's diversity push. The fact that it was a tweet could be partly responsible for that (not much room to elaborate), but I think they put the focus exactly where they wanted regardless. Of course they were going to spin it. I mean how much day to day does Iger put in the MCU? That's why he has Feige. If the MCU tanked, Feige would be out of there just like Perlmutter CES Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/20/2019 at 3:33 AM, Bazza said: Needs more fat Thor. < j/k > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 9:01 AM, Bazza said: I shouldn't laugh. Feige developing Star Wars film because he doesn’t have “time” for Spider-Man. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/marvel-s-kevin-feige-developing-star-wars-movie-disney-1243481 Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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