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The American New Wave of cinema was a counter-argument to the mainstream Hollywood assumption that movies should, above all else, be entertaining. Auteurs were free to "send a message" to the audience so long as the movies were entertaining enough to make money for the studio, but being smart, insightful, and/or socially relevant was never the main priority. I can see why these guys would be feeling all out of sorts with Marvel movies because it surely feels to them like the re-ascendance of the Hollywood ethos they worked so hard to undermine half a century ago.

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Messy divorces are so full of lies and distortions that it's impossible for outsiders to have any idea what actually happened.

 

Hopefully he doesn't get booted from the franchise unless something can actually be proven.  You know - old fashioned things like - facts, due process, etc.

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Performing artists are seen as particularly vulnerable to scandal, since so much of their marketability depends on their image. Yet the public has proven more forgiving of scandal in the long run than the suits in offices believe; or perhaps their memories just don't persist past the next good show the entertainer gives them.

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On 10/21/2019 at 6:18 AM, ScottishFox said:

 

They sound bitter and out of touch with humanity.  And bitter.

 

They bought into the whole "movies are to enlighten the unwashed masses" BS.  I don't know anyone that liked Goodfellas because it was art.  They watched it because it was a good gangster flick. 

 

Like many people in various types of entertainment, they have been in their personal echo chambers so long they have completely forgotten the entertainment part. 

 

I've stopped caring about various directors film pedigrees.  Once the worshiping starts they tend to forget what their real job is.  And then they get snippy when their masterpieces start returning less and less $. 

 

Kind of like the awards shows highlight the boring and uninspired over the new and entertaining.

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26 minutes ago, zslane said:

This isn't news, really. This is all part of Disney's grand plan. We all know that Disney is not renewing any contracts with other networks or streaming providers in order to direct viewers to Disney+.

 

Freeform is fully owned by Disney (via Walt Disney Television). The decision might be related to Jeph Loeb's exit from Marvel

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Yep. Loeb leaving seems the better reason why Cloak & Dagger was cancelled. It is also now pretty much inevitable that Runaways will be cancelled after its next season.

 

Silverlining... 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Ternaugh said:

Freeform is fully owned by Disney (via Walt Disney Television).

 

Yes, but Freeform isn't Disney+. And since Disney's master plan is to deliver all Marvel television content through Disney+, those other shows have to be sunsetted. And that's because Disney does not, and never did have plans to move them to Disney+. In the context of this master plan, it never mattered who was going to be in charge of Marvel Television going forward, the plan was always going to be: scrap the old content in favor of the new. Replacing Loeb with Feige was simply part of that plan, not the catalyst for these the strands of its execution.

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Just weeks out from the official launch date of Disney+, Verizon announced on Tuesday that it’s partnered with the service to offer a full year of free streaming to all new and existing 4G LTE and 5G unlimited wireless customers. Plus, the company said any incoming Verizon Fios Home Internet and 5G Home Internet customers will also get 12 months of the service for free.

 

https://gizmodo.com/a-free-year-of-disney-is-coming-to-verizon-customers-1839256833

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On 10/21/2019 at 1:35 PM, zslane said:

The American New Wave of cinema was a counter-argument to the mainstream Hollywood assumption that movies should, above all else, be entertaining. Auteurs were free to "send a message" to the audience so long as the movies were entertaining enough to make money for the studio, but being smart, insightful, and/or socially relevant was never the main priority. I can see why these guys would be feeling all out of sorts with Marvel movies because it surely feels to them like the re-ascendance of the Hollywood ethos they worked so hard to undermine half a century ago.

 

Yeah, I think you may have hit the nail on the head with this one. The Marvel Studios approach to fim-making has a lot of similarities to the old Hollywood studio system. 

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18 hours ago, Bazza said:

 

Wait, so a studio going under the "if it aint broke..." style of movie making? That doesn't make sense. Where is the corporate guys who have been in business their whole lives who KNOW they can make movies better and therefore need to tweek things?

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