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Marvel Cinematic Universe, Phase Three and BEYOOOOONND


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Enjoyed it.  Not the classic comic book character, but between having no rights to Fu Manchu, not that the character would be acceptable in the 21st century anyway, and needing a character and a story that fits centrally in a super-heroic universe, it was pretty clear they weren't going that route.

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1 hour ago, Scott Ruggels said:

 

Box Office Mojo has it at $75 million for Sept 3-5, and estimates $90 million domestic through Labor Day (Sept 3-6). The real test will be to see what second weekend numbers are like.

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2 hours ago, Ternaugh said:

 

Box Office Mojo has it at $75 million for Sept 3-5, and estimates $90 million domestic through Labor Day (Sept 3-6). The real test will be to see what second weekend numbers are like.

 

I am optimistic about them.  It is a good watch.  Personally, I ranking among MCU movies as tied for 5th/6th place with Spider-Man: Homecoming.

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6 hours ago, Ternaugh said:

 

Box Office Mojo has it at $75 million for Sept 3-5, and estimates $90 million domestic through Labor Day (Sept 3-6). The real test will be to see what second weekend numbers are like.

Anecdotal report, thst Shang Chi was sold out at an SF Bay Area theater, where a friend took his sister to see it. He had to buy a Wednesday matinee ticket for the two of them. 

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33 minutes ago, slikmar said:

Saw Shang-Chi. Enjoyed it for the Hong Kong movie it was, a lot. Even Akwafina, who normally annoys me, I liked. The use of Wong was great and the other character who was not in any previews I saw was fabulous.

 

The best part was when Shang-Chi sang "If Loving You is Wong, I Don't Wanna Be Right".

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Shang Chi's box office was not much different than Black Widow's (which would have been even higher if it had been shown in China, a situation every studio is struggling with not just Disney). However, Shang Chi missed out on $50-60M in PVOD revenue that Black Widow enjoyed. Johannsen's lawsuit is dead in the water since this shows that going theatrical-only brings in less money than day-and-date release in theaters and PVOD.

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53 minutes ago, zslane said:

Shang Chi's box office was not much different than Black Widow's (which would have been even higher if it had been shown in China, a situation every studio is struggling with not just Disney). However, Shang Chi missed out on $50-60M in PVOD revenue that Black Widow enjoyed. Johannsen's lawsuit is dead in the water since this shows that going theatrical-only brings in less money than day-and-date release in theaters and PVOD.

 

It's too early to say that.

 

The movie has been out for one week and has higher reviews than Black Widow. It already has over 50 percent of Black Widow's gross. If it has better performance in weeks 2-4 then we'll get a better comparison. 

 

Plus how does this invalidate ScarJo's lawsuit? The crux of that is that Disney doesn't want to  give her a cut of streaming sales because it would also then be possible to determine steaming's income and that would lead to bigger paydays for the actors.

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The core argument in her lawsuit is that Disney sabotaged her payout by not releasing it exclusively in theaters. It will be pretty trivial for Disney to show that Black Widow earned more by being released day-and-date with PVOD than Shang Chi did being released only in theaters, especially if you subtract Chinese box office results in order to make the comparison apples-to-apples.

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Plus the whole point of the BW thing was to boost their streaming service for their investors. Iger and Capinek both got big bonuses from that. The whole reason why they asked for arbitration is that they want to deny Johassen's claim that her movie could have made more money as theater only, and get around her contract that asked for an exclusive showing at the theaters before going to streaming without showing the numbers for the streaming service. It's the same sort of thing Disney has done in the past to get out of paying its commitments. They are almost Trump bad about that sort of thing

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