Christopher R Taylor Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Agreed. Still, don't discount the significance of a movie that stars a minority when that minority plays the bad guy or the expendable sidekick in 99% of other mainstream films. Eh, that hasn't been true for 20 years, unless you count Falcon as a "sidekick" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Falcon is pretty much a sidekick, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 And War Machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 And Wong, but he's British and Asian so doesn't count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 So fellow members on the Avengers are sidekicks? Its Captain America and his amazing friends now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Did Falcon get his own film yet? War Machine? Or have only white male Marvel superheroes been given their own movies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 Did Falcon get his own film yet? War Machine? Or have only white male Marvel superheroes been given their own movies? With Guardians you have a white man, green man, green woman (presumably from Orion), a raccoon & a walking tree. Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 With Guardians you have a white man, green man, green woman (presumably from Orion), a raccoon & a walking tree. I thought he was a blue man with red tattoos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 I thought he was a blue man with red tattoos Probably just needs this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massey Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Did Falcon get his own film yet? War Machine? Or have only white male Marvel superheroes been given their own movies? Suicide Squad had a black dude in the lead role. Luke Cage got his own Netflix series. Idris Elba has been the lead in a bunch of movies. Does the Rock count as black? They had a black Human Torch in that crappy FF movie. Artificially limiting it to Marvel movies is disingenuous, particularly since they haven't given that many characters their own stand alone films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 And since they're releasing Black Panther next, I'm not sure where this whole conversation is supposed to be headed or what it is supposed to mean? Am I supposed to split up what hair color is in movies, too? Too many movies with blonde men in them we need more brunettes!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 And redheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 And since they're releasing Black Panther next, I'm not sure where this whole conversation is supposed to be headed or what it is supposed to mean? Confucius say, "To find out where this conversation is headed, look to where it has been." Or something. And movie Falcon is definitely a sidekick. More so than movie Bucky ever was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 That is because Bucky is a villainous Russian. He can't be trusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrinku Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Actually, with Marvel, you're more likely to get a redhead than a Brunette, especially if they're a mutant. Fact. But yeah, the whitewashing is so ingrained in classic superheroes that it was almost inevitable the first wave was going to be that way (and also be male dominated). Black Panther should address that fairly well. I particularly like that it seems to be all in Wakanda. Also... are we forgetting Nick Fury here? Does anyone even remember when he wasn't Sam Jackson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Yes. The Hoff was furious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 If you are a Deadpool 1 fan, the film is opening sooner. http://www.comicsbeat.com/fox-continues-to-shuffle-their-superheroes-deadpool-2-debuting-earlier-new-mutants-delayed-10-months/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Again, I didn't say it was just a movie with a famous black lead; its a quasi-blockbuster with an (almost) entirely all-black cast (usually only reserved for small serious dramas fighting oppression and for civil rights or Tyler Perry-esque comedies) that just broke a record for early ticket sales. IMO this is somewhat of a big deal. YMMV. Bazza, drunkonduty, Grailknight and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 And redheads. Yeah! Those #### recast Thor as a blonde! Gingerists :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 But in the comics Thor is blonde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 But in the comics Thor is blonde. No excuse! * waves fist * :@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 I think that longboat has sailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Armory, Matt the Bruins and DasBroot 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massey Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Actually, with Marvel, you're more likely to get a redhead than a Brunette, especially if they're a mutant. Fact. But yeah, the whitewashing is so ingrained in classic superheroes that it was almost inevitable the first wave was going to be that way (and also be male dominated). Black Panther should address that fairly well. I particularly like that it seems to be all in Wakanda. Also... are we forgetting Nick Fury here? Does anyone even remember when he wasn't Sam Jackson? How is it whitewashing that characters who were originally created as white would remain so in a movie? Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 s/whitewasing/white predominance/ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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