Ragitsu Posted April 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 If we have to punch ourselves in the face to get the blood pumping, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Check out the full video at http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?_r=1 Especially the part at about 1:35 where the officer casually drops something next to the guy he shot. Sheesh. I thought the broken tail light was cliche enough, but dropping a weapon by the body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Aren't such items referred to as "drop guns"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 In Australia, they drop bears. assault 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 To point out the obvious: this is a rebirth of the Civil Rights movement. (Because most of the victims aren't "white"). And while I don't know the backgrounds of all of the people posting here, it's a pretty good indication that lots of "white" people are supportive of it. Well freakin' done. Change the world. You've already started. Ranxerox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-legal-analyst-planting-weapons-on-victims-used-to-be-standard-operating-procedure/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 During his time on the force, two citizen complaints were filed against Slager. In 2013, a man said Slager shot him with a Taser for no reason. An internal investigation exonerated the officer of wrongdoing though the man was not a suspect in a crime. Earlier this year, his bosses sustained a complaint against Slager for not taking a police report when called to a neighbor disturbance. http://news.yahoo.com/north-charleston-police-officer-michael-slager-didn-t-create-any-issues-nor-was-he-an-award-winner-035705817.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 I am sorry I cant link the story now but NYPD just got great press when one of their officers stole 2.5k from a,shop owner on camera during a cigarette raid. When asked to investigate the police just blew it off. Only now that the videotape has come out are they even thinking of looking at their cess pool and appeasing the public's natural desire to not be robbed. La Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Cigarette raid? Does that mean that criminals were stealing cigarettes from a shop, and the cop showed up to stop them before pocketing 2.5 large as their policing fee, OR that the shop was being raided by the cop/s and the funds happened to find their way into an officer's cruiser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Taxes on cigarettes are so high that some places sell under the counter cigarettes without tax. The NYPD have made it a priority to raid suspected businesses and cease the money for department use. This cop decided he didn't want to share it with his fellow theives/cops and kept it. The cops also ceased 600 'legally'. La Rose. Ragitsu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Taxes on cigarettes are so high that some places sell under the counter cigarettes without tax. The NYPD have made it a priority to raid suspected businesses and cease the money for department use. This cop decided he didn't want to share it with his fellow theives/cops and kept it. The cops also ceased 600 'legally'. La Rose. I wish you would cease using the word "cease" when you mean "seize." Lucius Alexander I didn't understand what you were saying until a palindromedary explained it to me 薔薇語 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankL Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Read a story yesterday that Arizona governor has just signed a law that will make it so that assets seized will not remain the police department's property unless a guilty verdict. I can still see ways to abuse, but that should have been the way all along. Ragitsu, gewing, Shadow Hawk and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Read a story yesterday that Arizona governor has just signed a law that will make it so that assets seized will not remain the police department's property unless a guilty verdict. I can still see ways to abuse, but that should have been the way all along. Good on the Governor then. gewing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I am sorry I cant link the story now but NYPD just got great press when one of their officers stole 2.5k from a,shop owner on camera during a cigarette raid. When asked to investigate the police just blew it off. Only now that the videotape has come out are they even thinking of looking at their cess pool and appeasing the public's natural desire to not be robbed. La Rose. NYPD. Not really surprising, I am afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/philly-cops-challenge-black-college-student-pickup-basketball-game-and-arrest-him This isn't brutality, per sé, but still a mighty dickish move that bends the rules till they're V-shaped. On top of that, the cops took the olive branch that such a gesture extends...and snapped it right in half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I saw that yesterday. Cops managed to go from finally acting like decent human beings to petty and alienating jerks. Lesson to learn: just like with your boss, let the fat and pathetic cops win. At least he didn't get shot for 'resisting arrest' or other fake charge. Imagine if this kid was at work and got dragged out just satisfy some cop's ego. That could have been the end of his job. Those cops ought to be fired. La Rose. Ragitsu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I saw that yesterday. Cops managed to go from finally acting like decent human beings to petty and alienating jerks. Lesson to learn: just like with your boss, let the fat and pathetic cops win. At least he didn't get shot for 'resisting arrest' or other fake charge. Imagine if this kid was at work and got dragged out just satisfy some cop's ego. That could have been the end of his job. Those cops ought to be fired. La Rose. Of course they should, IF the kid is telling the whole truth. It is potentially possible that they really did have some suspicion of him, that can be explained and justified. I doubt it, and Philadelphia has quite a history of Police brutality, iirc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 This happened right after the video became widely popular online? Seems unlikely, in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuSoardGraphite Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I've heard that police officers usually don't receive the best training or *any* training when dealing with the mentally disabled (and there are some homeless folk that don't have a full grasp on their sanity). I have recieved exactly zero training for dealing with the mentally disabled. The service relies on personal discretion for something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I have recieved exactly zero training for dealing with the mentally disabled. The service relies on personal discretion for something like that. Not, imo, a particularly good plan. Though some who are so convinced Police are always overreacting might be well served to watch "Surviving Edged Weapons." It certainly scared me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Of course they should, IF the kid is telling the whole truth. It is potentially possible that they really did have some suspicion of him, that can be explained and justified. I doubt it, and Philadelphia has quite a history of Police brutality, iirc... Yeah, I am sure that they will bring up that tip they got about how the kid that just publically schooled them just happened to have drugs or something in his car. Kinda like how that one cop happened to say the guy he just murdered stole his tazer. I believe cops even less than I can throw them. Unless they have unedited video evidence it is generally safer to assume they are lieing. La Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I think you are exaggerating. How much, is certainly arguable. and of course, ymmv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I'd like to think that Rose is exaggerating, but after the exposures of the past year, can we be so sure? Ragitsu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Geez, did he then throw his gun down, rip off his shirt, and give a bellow of victory? Or did he coolly blow the smoke off the muzzle and then twirl the gun as he reholstered? What a badass. /sarcasm. Dude's a walking John Woo film. Voluntary Manslaughter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I guess it's possible his brain just broke during the incident. Or he'd been going in to work with a malfunctioning brain the whole time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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