Pattern Ghost Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'd assume the training is focusing on grappling techniques and not striking. That said, the side handle baton can be used very effectively to grapple/joint lock a subject, and has very well-established training. Kind of stupid to reinvent the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 The problem with nunchaku is that they're incredibly lethal. You can break a cinder block with one and you don't need to know kung fu flashy flippity technique to do it. They're "blunt", and there's some binding type things you can do with one that would be somewhat useful in police work*, but the OCV penalty combined with the sneakily high damage is just asking for unintended consequences. * Of course, the chokes that you can apply with the nunchaku are also deceptively lethal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Impudite Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Though it might be amusing to watch some cop try to be Billy Badass and end up chucking himself in the twig and berries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'm now imagining that cop that did a high-school safety demonstration with a glock, explaining that he was the only one in the room with the training to handle it right, who then shot himself in the foot. And then I'm imagining him doing it with nunchucks. massey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted November 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Here is an interesting little tidbit: both the tonfa baton and nunchaku are of Okinawan design. Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbywolfe Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Cops Call Rancher for Help with a Bull, When He Showed Up the Cops Killed Him At least the County/Sheriff's Department asked the State Police to handle the investigation instead of doing it themselves. Oh, wait, these are the same State Police that are currently being sued by former employees who claim they suffered official, sanctioned retaliation for not cooperating in a cover-up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Fortunately, no one was shot...this time. http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/11/04/brooklyn-police-draw-guns-on-wrong-vehicle-handcuff-innocent-county-worker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Fortunately, no one was shot...this time. http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/11/04/brooklyn-police-draw-guns-on-wrong-vehicle-handcuff-innocent-county-worker Sounds like a standard felony traffic stop. The error wasn't with the officers, it was with the person who made the data entry error. We did the exact same thing when a plate came back as stolen when I was an MP, or when the driver had felony warrants. From the article: Nonetheless, the lone occupant of the Ford Fusion — Michael Houser, who works as a special assistant to Sharon Sobol, County Executive Armond Budish's Chief of Staff — was handcuffed and kept inside his vehicle for ten minutes. So, it only took ten minutes to sort out the error. No mention that the guy was handled roughly at all. No brutality here. FrankL, bigbywolfe, gewing and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Impudite Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Cops Call Rancher for Help with a Bull, When He Showed Up the Cops Killed Him At least the County/Sheriff's Department asked the State Police to handle the investigation instead of doing it themselves. Oh, wait, these are the same State Police that are currently being sued by former employees who claim they suffered official, sanctioned retaliation for not cooperating in a cover-up... And the two sh*theads who shot the rancher get a paid vacation while their buddies at the department play CYA for them. Just lovely. 薔薇語 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 officer believed shot as a hate crime towards police in Illinois is revealed to be an embezzler and is believed to have staged a suicide as a murder CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Here is an interesting little tidbit: both the tonfa baton and nunchaku are of Okinawan design. They are farm tools after all. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted November 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2015 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/11/05/pennsylvania-jury-acquits-lisa-mearkle-the-first-police-officer-tried-for-a-2015-on-duty-shooting/ Can't imagine WHY she wanted the footage kept from public consumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Wow. She has the Taser and her service weapon in hand at the same time? Moronic. Either she's disregarding her training, or the training needs a serious review. I hope the family gets a huge negligent death settlement at the very least, with a court-ordered review on the department's training attached if possible. Edit: Watching the video w/out sound, I'd assumed she pulled the pistol trigger either as a sympathetic action to pulling the Taser trigger or just pulled the wrong trigger. Seems like she deliberately shot him, though. I can see her claiming that to avoid a wrongful death shooting civil suit, but from other accounts, there was a four second pause between shots, so . . . the idiot actually shot the guy on purpose? Sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Interesting news bit about vindictive police jerks. Foreign Orchid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted November 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Wow. She has the Taser and her service weapon in hand at the same time? Moronic. Either she's disregarding her training, or the training needs a serious review. I hope the family gets a huge negligent death settlement at the very least, with a court-ordered review on the department's training attached if possible. Edit: Watching the video w/out sound, I'd assumed she pulled the pistol trigger either as a sympathetic action to pulling the Taser trigger or just pulled the wrong trigger. Seems like she deliberately shot him, though. I can see her claiming that to avoid a wrongful death shooting civil suit, but from other accounts, there was a four second pause between shots, so . . . the idiot actually shot the guy on purpose? Sheesh. What caps off this story to me, so far, is her attitude when she tries to defend herself: she comes off more as someone strongly annoyed that they were given a speeding ticket than an individual genuinely remorseful that they caused a death. Maybe many years on the force inured her to such emotions, but it's depressing all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Probably has something wrong with her brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/07/police_officers_charged_with_murder_in_shooting_death_of_6_year_old_jeremy.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/07/police_officers_charged_with_murder_in_shooting_death_of_6_year_old_jeremy.html That sounds like a terrible and disgusting story. I am glad those two officers were arrested and charged. I am curious what will happen with the other two. Likewise, I really want to hear what happened in full. Foreign Orchid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted November 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Interesting news bit about vindictive police jerks. Foreign Orchid. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/police-union-quentin-tarantino-surprise_563bfddde4b0411d3070793c What an appropriate and mature response! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 You know, I wasn't that interested in the Hateful 8 before, but suddenly I really want to buy a ticket Ragitsu, Pattern Ghost and massey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Cops Call Rancher for Help with a Bull, When He Showed Up the Cops Killed Him At least the County/Sheriff's Department asked the State Police to handle the investigation instead of doing it themselves. Oh, wait, these are the same State Police that are currently being sued by former employees who claim they suffered official, sanctioned retaliation for not cooperating in a cover-up... This was not too far from my area. Radio news (NPR, Not commercial) sounded as if he tried to prevent them from putting the animal down, and shots were fired both directions. Time will probably tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 More on the murder of the rancher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 More on the murder of the rancher. Are gladitorial bare handed battles yo the death with bears still illegal? I know a couple murderers Id like to see on TV that way... On a more serious note, I hope both of those horrid wretches are charged, tried, and found guilty. And perhaps never see the light of day again. SOAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted November 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Police-enforced extortion -> https://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/st-louis-suburb-funds-itself-by-increasing-nuisance-ticketing-on-black-homes-by-495-percent-lawsuit/ Saggy pants? Fiiiiiiiiiiiine them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 More on the murder of the rancher. As I said, time might tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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