csyphrett Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Looking at this again, what was he doing that was so dangerous in a strip mall parking lot they rush him with weapons drawn? Was he jaywalking too fast? CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 hours ago, csyphrett said: Looking at this again, what was he doing that was so dangerous in a strip mall parking lot they rush him with weapons drawn? Was he jaywalking too fast? CES That's not something we can answer; the police may have had reason. Constructing such really isn't hard. But I agree with your point there. The officer on the left is getting ready to cuff; everything is fine. THEN the thug with a badge behind the suspect slams a foot into the guy's back with NO provocation that we can see. Depending on why the stop was made in the first place? That kick makes me feel that anything small, should flat out be thrown out of court. The kicking thug should be fired as soon as possible, and I'm fine if he gets charged with battery. At the VERY least, the escalation was grossly premature and excessive. Trying to seize the phone shows a culture problem. It'd be prima facie obstruction...except of course, it was (I assume) another cop. So it MIGHT result in a suspension for that cop, but beyond that...nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 The behavior of police in many jurisdictions in America has simply used up all the public's goodwill and benefit of the doubt. Whatever the circumstances of a particular incident, the majority of Americans are too fed up to keep buying excuses. pinecone and Matt the Bruins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: The behavior of police in many jurisdictions in America has simply used up all the public's goodwill and benefit of the doubt. Whatever the circumstances of a particular incident, the majority of Americans are too fed up to keep buying excuses. Why focus on the cut of the beef when it's from a rotten carcass? pinecone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 11:54 PM, Old Man said: U.S. forces appear to have begun a staged withdrawal from occupied Portland. And now that the "rioters" are gone (the federal police) the violence has gone down...odd how those went together. Old Man, Pattern Ghost and Matt the Bruins 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/1/2020 at 1:00 PM, TrickstaPriest said: When the only tool you rely on is violence, violence is the only outcome you can have. Why pay tax dollars to have violent thugs roam the streets? There is every appearance that defunding this department by 50% would improve public safety by 100% Armory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 I heard the "tiktiktik of a taser, also who tries to grab evidence? Criminals, or "honest" people? Grabbing the phone is likely a violation of civil rights under "color of law"(tit. 18 I believe) No part of this assault shows any cause. I'm guessing this is standard opperating procedure for these yahoos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/27/2020 at 11:43 AM, ScottishFox said: Meanwhile at the federal courthouse protests in Portland the AP has done some brilliant journalism. They put a reporter in the crowd AND one in the building so they could get both perspectives on what is happening. Seriously great work. The article: https://apnews.com/1dd1bb39093a3691f4e78093787ab877 Some thoughts from the AP reporter inside the courthouse: At the rate this is escalating I wouldn't be surprised to see live ammo fired at the protesters soon. They are doing real - in some cases permanent - damage to the federal officers who are inside the structure. Honestly, I can't believe the level of restraint that has been shown so far. This attack on the courthouse has been going on for weeks. Now that the feds are gone, the violence has left with them. Who was the threat? They seem to wear camo and no name tags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 hours ago, pinecone said: When the only tool you rely on is violence, violence is the only outcome you can have. Why pay tax dollars to have violent thugs roam the streets? There is every appearance that defunding this department by 50% would improve public safety by 100% I listened to this again. He says kneel and then kicks. Not kneel, wait wait wait, Kick. kneel, kick. CES pinecone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 hours ago, pinecone said: And now that the "rioters" are gone (the federal police) the violence has gone down...odd how those went together. Purely coincidental I’m sure. pinecone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 hours ago, csyphrett said: I listened to this again. He says kneel and then kicks. Not kneel, wait wait wait, Kick. kneel, kick. CES Doesn't sound like it. To me, he's moving into the kick as he *says* kneel. The kick doesn't contact beforehand, but it is in progress. Which, of course, is worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 hours ago, unclevlad said: Doesn't sound like it. To me, he's moving into the kick as he *says* kneel. The kick doesn't contact beforehand, but it is in progress. Which, of course, is worse. I don't think he could kneel. Pinecone is right. He is tased first, then commanded to kneel as he is getting kicked. How is he going to kneel when he is being electrocuted. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 NSFW Language Warning, but worth a watch: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 Okay, he shouldn't imply Washington becoming a slaveowner at 11 was just what he asked for his birthday. His dad died. He became man of the house, so he owned the slaves and not his mom. Much darker, Washington made part of his dentures from slave teeth. He did pay them, but below market rate and the slaves couldn't say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 4, 2020 Report Share Posted August 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Sociotard said: Okay, he shouldn't imply Washington becoming a slaveowner at 11 was just what he asked for his birthday. Sometimes, he just says stuff for the laughs. I found some of the other material more interesting. Like 1950's Karen at 21:20. Washington, though, was also one of those opposed to abolishing slavery when the Constitution was originally drawn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted August 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 Twice today I have heard an amplified voice in the distance. Apparently, there is at least one protest in the vicinity of my neighborhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 22 hours ago, Ragitsu said: Twice today I have heard an amplified voice in the distance. Apparently, there is at least one protest in the vicinity of my neighborhood. If you have breathing issues might want to seal up as best as can. Clouds of tear gas seem to appear at random...... Ragitsu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted August 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, pinecone said: If you have breathing issues might want to seal up as best as can. Clouds of tear gas seem to appear at random...... A ("The"?) voice was even closer an hour ago. I wonder if the helicopters faintly droning away have anything to do with the demonstration. Oh, there was a random (non-amplified) shout just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 John Neiville's death video was released by the FCSO. He had a coronary and died in police custody because he was face down in his cell and the idiots couldn't get his cuffs off, or sit him up. It wasn't deliberate brutality, it was stupidity CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted August 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 There was an explosion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Ragitsu said: There was an explosion. Are you okay Rag? What is going on? CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted August 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 hours ago, csyphrett said: Are you okay Rag? What is going on? CES I am. Once I decide to check the local news, I'll know if anything truly serious happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Explosions would be the cue to check local news NOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 Portland police investigating reports of explosive devices being thrown at protesters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 3 hours ago, assault said: Portland police investigating reports of explosive devices being thrown at protesters Were they the ones doing the throwing? CES Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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