BoneDaddy Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 On 8/26/2020 at 10:54 PM, Old Man said: Could someone remind me what ghastly crime Jacob Blake was arrested and tased for, prior to being shot and paralyzed? Trespassing? Domestic dispute? At the time of his attempted murder, I think he was being arrested for trying to leave. I believe his warrant status was unknown. I believe these were all warrants for his arrest, and not previous convictions for which he had evaded the state’s punitive measures. This status, wanted but not convicted, is what we lawyers call “innocent.” An innocent man was shot in the back, and the person who shot him in the back allegedly found a knife near the location where the peace officer shot the innocent man in the back seven times at point blank range. I would be interested in hearing the innocent man’s statement that he had a knife. “Hang on a minute officer, let me get to my car so I can get my knife, and then we’ll just see who’s boss around here. Don’t mind my three kids in the minivan waiting for me.” I’m not certain I’m willing to accept the word of the man who shot the innocent man in the back seven times, or the word of his coworkers, all of whom are in a profession notorious for covering up the crimes of coworkers. Old Man, wcw43921, pinecone and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneDaddy Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 20 hours ago, Pattern Ghost said: Meanwhile, in Seattle, some upstanding citizens tried to lock officers into our East Precinct by pouring quick drying cement over the door, then set the building on fire. It may sound like a bad 60's Batman villain plot, but it actually happened: https://mynorthwest.com/2114190/rantz-rioters-burn-seattle-police-alive-sealed-door/? Well that’s silly. You cannot seal a door with quick-crete, especially one that size. The newly set mix is nowhere near strong enough, especially at that thickness. I do t know that it could ever be strong enough, really, but after a week that stuff gets awfully hard, and after a decade it’s damn hard to break. But wafer thin? I doubt it would hold if you have it a hundred years to harden. The fire, lit elsewhere near the precinct building, didn’t actually succeed in setting the concrete building on fire. if this actually was an attempt to seal the officers in the building, it was terribly executed, in that the alleged attempt could never work, and the precinct has many more doors. You could make a fairly dry mix and make a permanent door-stop to keep the door closed, but it would need several hours to bond well enough to the floor to not break off with a good kick. So, two counts of vandalism. Impossibility is actually an absolute defense to a criminal charge, like that time I confessed that I murdered president Garfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 More to the question, if the group using the cement was not the same group setting the fire, they may not have known about the fire to begin with. BoneDaddy and Matt the Bruins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 The FBI warned for years that police are cozy with the far right. Is no one listening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneDaddy Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 The felony warrant against the innocent man shot in the back by the police has been vacated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, BoneDaddy said: The felony warrant against the innocent man shot in the back by the police has been vacated. Before his shooting or afterward? And would you happen to have a link to the site where you found that information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, archer said: Before his shooting or afterward? And would you happen to have a link to the site where you found that information? TMZ.Com CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 https://thehill.com/homenews/news/514182-blake-no-longer-restrained-at-hospital-after-warrant-vacated "Earlier today, Mr. Blake posted the bond underlying the arrest warrant, enabling his release from custody. The hospital watch was discontinued immediately after receiving this information from Kenosha authorities," Milwaukee County Sheriff's investigator Scott Still said in a statement In May, Blake was accused of unlawfully entering a home and sexually assaulting a woman in her bedroom before leaving with her vehicle, CNN reported, citing a criminal complaint it obtained. The man had been handcuffed to the hospital bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 This retaliatory behavior is a big part of this larger problem, PD essentially acting as a crime syndicate. If we want to talk about olive branches and trust, things like this are absolute cancer to trust. pinecone and Matt the Bruins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, TrickstaPriest said: This retaliatory behavior is a big part of this larger problem, PD essentially acting as a crime syndicate. If we want to talk about olive branches and trust, things like this are absolute cancer to trust. Could you add some context for this post? I have no idea what a ring video is or how it relates to anything at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ranxerox said: Could you add some context for this post? I have no idea what a ring video is or how it relates to anything at all. Pardon. I posted people investigating it, but not the thing itself. Ranxerox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 I Learned To Think Like A "Warrior Cop" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 19 hours ago, BoneDaddy said: Well that’s silly. I heard on the radio yesterday that they picked the kid up. Apparently, it was a 19 year old kid whose 16 year old brother was killed by police in Alaska. So, silly fits, given the age and emotional state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 3 hours ago, wcw43921 said: I Learned To Think Like A "Warrior Cop" That is truly illuminating. It's very telling that this type of training is being promoted by someone with years of experience in the military, but none in civilian law-enforcement. I don't know whether Grossman actually believes what he's selling, or if he's just another "self-help" parasite. But in conflating combat priorities with policing, he's clearly exacerbating the mindset we see today. wcw43921 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Lord Liaden said: I don't know whether Grossman actually believes what he's selling, or if he's just another "self-help" parasite. I'm leaning toward "parasite." TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 ‘He’s a small child’: Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 On 9/8/2020 at 12:05 PM, Cygnia said: ‘He’s a small child’: Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help From the article: Quote The problem is so acute some cities have moved toward sending non-police crisis units to respond to mental health emergencies. This is what should be happening. The last thing a 13-year-old kid with an Autism spectrum disorder needs during an episode is a big, loud adult waving a weapon around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 Still no arrests, though. Louisville Agrees To $12 Million Settlement With Breonna Taylor's Family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 How much of that $12M is being paid by taxpayers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 It ought to be cut from the police department's toys vehicles and equipment budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Matt the Bruins said: It ought to be cut from the police department's toys vehicles and equipment budget. Or retirement packages? No, they might riot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Old Man said: How much of that $12M is being paid by taxpayers? Cities purchase insurance against lawsuits. The city will be paying higher insurance premiums in the future and that'll be passed along to the taxpayer. 8 hours ago, Pariah said: Louisville Agrees To $12 Million Settlement With Breonna Taylor's Family "The settlement also includes a series of police reforms to be adopted by the Louisville Metro Police Department, including establishing a housing incentive program to encourage officers to live in low-income neighborhoods within the city." Not sure what to think about this. Remember the police shooting when the officer let herself into a neighbor's home, not noticing it wasn't her own, and killing the neighbor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Something relevant: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, TrickstaPriest said: Something relevant: Difficult to treat everyone like a suspect if you don't dehumanize them to some extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 18 hours ago, Hermit said: Or retirement packages? No, they might riot. That... would be ironic. Would they have to pepper-spray each other and beat themselves up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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