Christopher R Taylor Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 The soviets were hard at work on their own flying saucers as well: this has implications for the Silver Age too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I little side question. Would you write these guys up a heroic or superheroic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I little side question. Would you write these guys up a heroic or superheroic? Depends. Some of the heroines like Wonder Woman and Miss America in one of the pictures could easily be hundreds of points. The equipment could be in the same range depending. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted March 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I'd run them as low powered champions, so they could have odd powers or extra-human abilities (like Cat Man's agility) even if it superhuman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Golden Age characters were definitely superheroic (by definition, actually ). And not particularly low powered, either, at least in HERO System point terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Golden Age of Comics (Wikipedia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age_of_Comic_Books Golden Age Comics (Concept) http://www.comicvine.com/golden-age-of-comics/4015-55820/ Cheers QM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 It depends a lot. Some of them (like most of the Justice Society) were pretty low powered, some were insanely powerful. So you had Sandman who was a guy with a gas gun and Specter who was essentially all-powerful. Batman was well trained and had a few gadgets (not many back then) and Superman who was bulletproof and could bench press the Titanic. The Golden Age campaign I ran was relatively modest, with guys more like Hourman who were very powerful but for short periods of time, or Dr Mid-Nite who could see in the dark but was otherwise a normal guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yeah back in the day, I would have run "Golden" heroes at 250, and "Modern" at 350. Even the stronger chars tended to be simple in design, and lets that show through. And it makes Gangsters, and Axis soldiers much more challenging enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 My point is that there are some nuances between heroic level and superheroic level builds. I believe that you could build super powered heroes in heroic level perhaps everyone starts at 200 points. I think perhaps doing it like this would give the effect if people with powers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 My point is that there are some nuances between heroic level and superheroic level builds. I believe that you could build super powered heroes in heroic level perhaps everyone starts at 200 points. I think perhaps doing it like this would give the effect if people with powers. In some ways this is very true to the source, many Golden Age Supers were pulp heroes with less dark view points, but it slams into a dude from Krypton, or a ring wearing fellow, etc. While many heroes from the era are built with good to very good stats, some can lift a Buick over their head, and/or bounce bullets. So the Sandman can spend his points on skills and contacts, while the Whizzer buys a lot of stats and powers.(Yes a real hero ) And yes he did wear a yellow costume, how did you guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 It depends a lot. Some of them (like most of the Justice Society) were pretty low powered, some were insanely powerful. So you had Sandman who was a guy with a gas gun and Specter who was essentially all-powerful. Batman was well trained and had a few gadgets (not many back then) and Superman who was bulletproof and could bench press the Titanic. The Golden Age campaign I ran was relatively modest, with guys more like Hourman who were very powerful but for short periods of time, or Dr Mid-Nite who could see in the dark but was otherwise a normal guy. In some ways this is very true to the source, many Golden Age Supers were pulp heroes with less dark view points, but it slams into a dude from Krypton, or a ring wearing fellow, etc. While many heroes from the era are built with good to very good stats, some can lift a Buick over their head, and/or bounce bullets. So the Sandman can spend his points on skills and contacts, while the Whizzer buys a lot of stats and powers.(Yes a real hero ) And yes he did wear a yellow costume, how did you guess. Then again, they didn't need superpowers to be superheroic. Check out panel three on this page from Captain America-- I figure that's over a dozen Nazis that he's taken out of the fight just by swinging his arms out to the sides. You can almost hear the "falling tenpins" sound effect. Cap didn't need to fly or shoot disintegrator beams from his eyes to upend the laws of physics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 My point is that there are some nuances between heroic level and superheroic level builds. I believe that you could build super powered heroes in heroic level perhaps everyone starts at 200 points. I think perhaps doing it like this would give the effect if people with powers. Yeah I was thinking more in terms of what's available to characters to buy more than point values. I'm a low points low power kinda guy, that's my preference because it tends to humanize and give the characters flaws and holes to fill, room to grow into and space to expand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Torch of liberty, Golgotha, batman, per degaton and Hitler May have missed someome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Then again, they didn't need superpowers to be superheroic. Check out panel three on this page from Captain America-- I figure that's over a dozen Nazis that he's taken out of the fight just by swinging his arms out to the sides. You can almost hear the "falling tenpins" sound effect. Cap didn't need to fly or shoot disintegrator beams from his eyes to upend the laws of physics. So, let's just ignore the super-strength, super-agility... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Another byrne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted March 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 My favorite Captain America move was always the "hurl a pile of guys aside" thing he did when they piled on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comic Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 My favorite Captain America move was always the "hurl a pile of guys aside" thing he did when they piled on. The first Martial Art move I learned! ..somehow, I never got quite the same effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakboy6117 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 video game inspiration wolfenstein the old blood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1DRBGjvGng the new order http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA1QB-h1c4I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead guy on the tab Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 And to think Captain America just punched out Hitler-- But it took Cat-Man 20 issues to get there, where Cap did it in his first issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 John Byrne's torch of liberty along with moonhawk from deviantart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Found on deviant art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 John Byrne's torch of liberty along with moonhawk from deviantart. Wow, I like that Torch a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Wow, I like that Torch a lot. As much flack.as JB gets.he does do somengood designs. Ok,.doing rock, paper, scissors as a team called trio pushed it a little. Torch showed up as a one shot along with backup in danger unlimited. You can find them.collected in the DU trade paperback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Valhalla VALH (Antarctic, 1999) [Manga/Anime] [science Fiction] ™ and ©1999 Ben Dunn It’s 1939 Germany, and Nazi soldiers sweep the land. There the historical similarities end, as the Führer has died of pneumonia; aliens have landed and are preparing a major assault on the earth; and the humans’ major technological defenses are represented by a super-science center known as Valhalla. Defending its gates are armed forces represented by Colonel Heydrich, a raven-haired beauty whose mind wanders to erotic thoughts, and genetically enhanced warriors like psi-powered Jeosph and the dog-soldier—literally—Otto. Working to combat the alien technology are such scientists as high-strung Dr. Hahn and kindly Professor Nomura; caught somewhere in the middle is an innocent girl who has stumbled upon the greatest power the world has ever seen. Written and drawn by talented Antarctic publisher Ben Dunn, this full-color series is jammed with intriguing characters, an intricately woven plot, and plenty of action. When an apparent Shogun Warrior homage appears, it’s clear that anything can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Wow. Did I kill this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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