Chris Goodwin Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 The "Modern and Realistic" thread got me to thinking. Toadmaster, a ways back on that thread, wrote: Personnally I find HERO works very well for these games. Its not just these boards, i've found many gamers have a snobbery against these types of games as unworthy of being RPG's and many on these boards will argue that HERO is terrible for them, don't believe it. I've never met a genre Hero didn't like. Some of what I've played in Hero: Four color superheroes Somewhat deadlier superheroes Wild Cards Teen superheroes Many Fantasy Hero games Fantasy Hero game based on FGU's Bushido Fantasy Hero game based on Robert Asprin's Myth series with a distinct Star Wars flavor Several different translations of Battletech to Hero Generic giant robots (Robot Warriors) Old West Paranoid/gonzo conspiracy a la Illuminati Modern military action adventure Translation of WW's Vampire (that itself started as a modern day with magic game a la GURPS Technomancer) Space opera Pro wrestling Something odd we called "Death Wish", essentially 10 point characters, no powers or disads, dropped on a map and forced to fight to the last man. Weird dimension hopping uhhh...weirdness Ninja Hero (I was one of the Hiro Brothers) I missed out on the Ghostbusters game, but wanted to do one myself. What have you used Hero for, as player or GM? In your opinion, did it "work" for that particular campaign, genre, or setting? Why or why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradonSilverton Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 I'll throw in one... 99% Conversion of the origional Cthulhu.... All that remained was the precentile Dice for Sanity... This covered all aspects....20's, Teen, Ect. Worked absolutly beautifully..... Now as for my characters....well if you'd played Cthulhu, then you know what happened to every single one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnTaber Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Boy...I've done a lot of fun stuff with Hero. I'll only mention campaigns I have run. + Champions - From 200 to 500 points. I've run campaigns where superheroes are brand new and get their powers from one source and I've run the more standard stuff. I've probably run at least 4 or 5 different Champions campaigns over the years. + The Network - Sort of a secret band of folks who want to see the world improved. Based on Danger International and a game played by the old guard Hero folks and Doug G. + Fantasy Hero In Harn - I've run 3 or 4 extended campaigns in Harn in different areas (knights, frozen wastelands with vikings, etc...). I've even run games where the PC play familiars of a powerful mage who gets kidnapped...THEN they get to play the archmages who they save. + Von Braun Covenant - A sort of X-Files meets V. One of my favorites. + Alien Legion - Military star hero with aliens all over the place. Tons of fun. + The Canon Club - A group of mystery solvers. Great fun. + Time Travel DI (Danger International) - My most requested con game. Characters appear at a place in time where something is wrong that must be righted. Sort of Time Bandits and Sliders. The PC currently include folks like an NFL football player, a Victorian actress, a 6th century Chinese monk, and a 1920's australian tracker. That's what I can remember right now... GO HERO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkusDark Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 I am currently using Hero to balance the short leg of my sofa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamo Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Horror. Lots of horror. Some fantasy and Star Wars, too. I've been wanting to do sci-fi ever since I got Star Hero, but I haven't got around to it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmaster Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Funny the past couple of days I've thought about posting a similar post. What I've played with HERO. Supers (I played a fair amount of Champions until DI came out, very little since) Fantasy (several D&D Grayhawk based campaigns, plus a number of generic fantasyhero campaigns) this is probably what I've used HERO for the most. Military Anti-terrorist Spy / espionage lots of Aftermath, Morrow Project and Twilight 2000 A few Call of Cthulhu games A few pulp games loosely following the Indiana Jones theme Stalking the night fantastic (modern horror) A WesternHERO campaign (well ok a few sessions) A dimension hopping / time travel campaign (I played a 2m tall jet black lizard necromancer named Nerbert who was armed with a Galil ARM and a S&W .44 magnum) unfortunately this game fell apart after a few sessions (the GM flaked out). A few scifi StarHERO type games (although we didn't have StarHERO since it didn't exist. A toon game I've also played in quite a few one shot games of various genres, the heyday of my HERO gaming was in the days of DI, JI and FH3 so its been alongtime for some of the games and I know I'm leaving some out. By the time HERO4 came out we were primarily into FH and Postapacalypse games. Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to break in Fred. I have yet to find a genre I was interested in that I couldn't use HERO for. Some games are better for some aspects, particularly detail but I've always been satisfied with HERO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Squirrel Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 I have used Hero for the following: Evil Superhero Campaign Lethal Game Show Murder Supernatural Mystery Standard Superhero Anime Hero Post-Apoc Campaign (x2 at once) I used UMA as a mouse pad. It was a great replacement for the Psionics Handbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Nothing, unfortunately. I can't even find games online, because I prefer play by post to chat based games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Squirrel Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Originally posted by Victim Nothing, unfortunately. I can't even find games online, because I prefer play by post to chat based games. Have you tried http://www.herocentral.net yet? I have an online game there Pits of Teska that could really use one more player. It isn't a long term campaign but it would help one of my players out greatly to only have to play one character instead of two. At this point in the game, I'd let you create your own instead of using the second one he made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuSoardGraphite Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Hmmm...lets see: Standard Superhero (champions universe) Gritty Superhero (Based on Image/Wildstorm's STORMWATCH comic) Scifi (Space Opera) Cyberpunk Fantasy (both Low and High) The Five Star Stories (Very powerful Heroic or low Superheroic campaign that combines Fantasy, Scifi, mecha and superpowers into one kick ass campaign setting...based on a popular Manga) Tentative plans for the future include: High Fantasy (based on ICE's Shadow World setting) Space Opera (original setting: Dark Universe) Anime Cyberpunk (based on various anime and manga such as BGC, Appleseed, Angel Cop, GiTS etc) Lots more Five Star Stories... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuSoardGraphite Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 Oh damn! I forgot about my Sengoku game! Heck, that was one of my best games! I can't believe I forgot about that one... Also, I have definate plans to run a Wuxia game based in 15th century China. Got a good storyline laid out based on some actual historical events... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AGLAR Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Originally posted by NuSoardGraphite (CHOP!!!) Anime Cyberpunk (based on various anime and manga such as BGC, Appleseed, Angel Cop, GiTS etc) GiTS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsuyama Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 GitS = Ghost in the Shell (manga by Masamune Shirow, published in the US by Dark Horse Comics, anime available on DVD and VHS from Manga Entertainment directed by Mamoru Oshii). Good cyberpunk stuff -- heavy on the cyberware, the characters are all a little estranged from the man on the street, but the world isn't too dark because they actually work for a pretty hardcore agency that provides good backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 Gee, compared to you guys I seem simple. I've used HERO for: • Champions (mostly four-color, but some Dark). • SciFi (just started a new TE campaign; in the past I have done Star Wars Hero many times). • Fantasy (not much, but some). • Pulp (not as much as I would like! Did a short-run game where everyone played one of Doc Savage's aids). • Western (what can I say, Young Guns was a favorite of mine at the time). That is about it for me. Like I said, I'm simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDU Neil Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 All the same for me... ... as well as some others. Working with Storn, we tried to create a "fantasy martial arts" campaign... to incorporate the feeling of "wire fu" type of movies we'd only just discovered back in '92 and the like. Decades of Champions... standard superheroes that grew into what I'd call "science fiction supers" where issues like law and sciene and society and politics begin to be radically affected by the existence of supers. Lots of FH... which I like... but I can understand why others don't. Hero System can make magic feel like super powers way too easily, and you have to do a LOT of tweaking to make it feel "magical" again. Lots of Detective/terrorist/cops/ex-military DI type stuff (as per my original thread). Low level "agents in a super world" sub campaigns... as well as "black ops supers" in my main superhero world. Star Hero, and even more so, Cyber Hero... which takes some tweaking, but I love Hero System for these games. One thing I've not seen mentioned is Shadowrun. I never liked the FASA system... but darn it if Hero didn't do that "cyber magic" genre better than anything. In that kind of world, where magic is more of an occult science, with lots of controls, Hero worked really well... and you could balance mages and cyber samurai and elven rangers with MP-5s and orcish tank drivers AMAZINGLY well in Hero. Cyberpunk as a genre has slowly been dying since the end of the '80s. The hey-day '90s made all the computer geeks rich and important, so they lost the "isolated against the world of corporations" feel... as they BECAME the corporationas. Maybe now... with a good, facist Republican administration and Congress... we can get back to the good ol' days of oppression and ostracism like the Reagan/Thatcher era I grew up in. hoo boy... cyberpunk all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmaster Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 I've noticed the same thing with Post apacalypse games, during the 80's when the Cold war was going strong this was a popular genre, ever since the rotten commie evil empire of the USSR became the cheerful enlightened Russian co-op the PA genre has been slowly dying off. We need some new commies pointing missiles at us banging shoes on the table, building walls nad just plain being intimidating, these darn terrorists just don't have the proper organizational skills to replace the USSR and the CCCP are too subtle for us Americans lending themselves far more to the espionage genre, when are the polititions going to learn that their actions screw up are gaming habits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDU Neil Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Licenses? Maybe I've missed commentary from Steve et al., about this... but why doesn't Hero look to acquire some licenses, like GURPs. Specifically, coming out of this thread, I would think a Hero System version of Shadowrun would be amazing. All the cool world building stuff is done... and could just have Hero stats of main characters added to it. I'd buy it in a flat second. Of course, some other company might have the rights to Shadowrun, and I'm just oblivious... 'cause I don't buy many game products outside of Hero. Anyone know what the status of the Shadowrun franchise is, these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkusDark Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Re: Licenses? Originally posted by RDU Neil Maybe I've missed commentary from Steve et al., about this... but why doesn't Hero look to acquire some licenses, like GURPs. Currently, Hero games has their work for the next two years already laid out in front of them. I believe that at anytime someone says "What about this?" the generic response is "Probably around 2006". Hero, however, is MORE than willing to entertain any proposals so if any individual wants to aquire a licence and then develop for Hero, I'm sure they'd look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Re: Licenses? Originally posted by RDU Neil Maybe I've missed commentary from Steve et al., about this... but why doesn't Hero look to acquire some licenses, like GURPs. You can find the "official" take on licenses in this thread: http://www.herogames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=715 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thag13 Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Gosh, all the games I have run under Hero rules.. two different SuperHero games. a Call of Cthulu game. three different DI games. ONe set was jewel theves. Another set was a group of security experts. Twilight 2000. we converted the entire books into Hero games. Star Trek Klingons game. Based on John FOrd Final Reflection book. Hero Shadow Run. Fantasy Hero based on Glen Cooks Randel Garret books. We did a All flesh must be eaten game. we also did a Weird War II game also. I ran a Ducktales/Darkwing Duck/Scrooge game. 20 years of games..how time flies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnflang Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 I have been in the following HERO genres: 4 color superhero 4 color villians fantasy - generic fantasy - Set in Europe fantasy - Forgotten Realms Sliders/Stargate Horror/Highlander Immortals Morrow Project - set on Pern with HIghlander Immortals and Vampires Star Wars Hong Kong Action Movie Police Action Movie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grymlynn Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 When I first started with HERO... We decided to really stretch ourselves, so we gathered three good B grade movies, and based the game on them... Scanners, Hellraiser, and Nightbreed. Hoo, we had some fun with that. It ended up flavored similar to Nightbane from Palladium, but better system... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 Quite a few really Champions Villains Spys Private Eyes Post Holocaust Gamma Hero (Gamma World) 40K Hero Star Trek (Crew of sister ship to the galaxy class) Fantasy Hero/Forgotten Realms Western Hero Star Hero Quasi Star Wars Hero That about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibear Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Lots of stuff since 1986, but I'll add on a few not mentioned. Judge Dredd - 2 different campaigns with 2 different sets of players. Warhammer Fantasy - same as above. Immortal ninja campaign - 12th century aiming to stop somewhere around 2200? Strontium Dog - another 2000ad convert. Mutant bounty hunters in space, loads with scottish accents for some reason. Go yersel McNulty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lensman Posted March 7, 2003 Report Share Posted March 7, 2003 Games I have run with Hero Gamma Hero: Great fun, short lived Gamma World meets Rifts Wild martial Atrs Campaign: 1980's Di meets Ninja Hero Black File Ops: Futuristic Psionic Detective Crime thriller Black Powder Fantasy Fantasy Hero; Swords and Sorcery 4 color Champions: Westguard, set in S.F. Dark Champions: set in San Augustine Star Hero: Spiral Arm jalopies in Space Campiagns I want to run in the future with Hero: Mecha Hero: Humanity, at the brink of colonizing the Galaxy and reaching to the Magellanic Clouds, having found no other sentient life;begins a new stage of evolution Alien Legion: Pink fleshy mamals, that speak? Nope, haven't seen 'em. Watch the tetacles, you nitrogen breathing offspring of a black hole. CyberPunk: Build your Mega-Corp, build your agents and stamp out the Sprawl for the good of Profit. May the most profitable, back-stabbing, assassin of Industry become your *^$# !(**^ tool ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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