unclevlad Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 4 hours ago, Cygnia said: World Bank halts paid advertising on X after CBS News finds its promoted ad under racist content As are IBM, Apple, WB, Disney, Paramount (CBS), and Lionsgate, from Musk's own posts. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/world-bank-advertising-elon-musk-x-racism-pro-nazi-accounts/ Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 The Kennedys roll over in their grave.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 1 hour ago, Starlord said: The Kennedys roll over in their grave.... And I'd wonder how many of his supporters look at a Trump endorsement and ask themselves, "I was supporting this candidate?" IIRC, most of the family had already disavowed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 The Washington Post had reported on August 14 that Kennedy had tried to get a meeting with Harris to pitch endorsing her for a cabinet seat, but that he had been denied a meeting. It's also been reported that he had been in discussions for a place in the administration with the Trump campaign, as well. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/14/rfk-jr-kamala-harris-cabinet-trump/ (may be behind a paywall) https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4829150-robert-f-kennedy-jr-kamala-harris-cabinet-position-2024/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 More facepalmings, more saying the quiet part out loud Republican group cites notorious Dred Scott ruling as reason Kamala Harris can’t be president Quote The National Federation of Republican Assemblies (NFRA) has cited the infamous 1857 Dred Scott Supreme Court decision, which stated that enslaved people weren’t citizens, to argue that Vice President Kamala Harris is ineligible to run for president according to the Constitution. The group also challenged the right of Vivek Ramaswamy and Nikki Haleyto appear on Republican primary ballots. The Republican group’s platform and policy document noted that “The Constitutional qualifications of Presidential eligibility” states that “No person except a natural born Citizen, shall be eligible, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.” The same document included former President Donald Trump’s running mate Ohio Senator JD Vance on a list of preferred candidates for vice president. The document and the citing of the Dred Scott decision were initially noted by lawyer Andrew Fleischman on X, formerly Twitter. The group goes on to argue in the document that a natural-born citizen has to be born in the US to parents who are citizens when the child is born, pointing to the thinking of Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 This is why they made the McCane Rule. This organization is just some more flat earthers who need to shut up to quit revealing they are dumb CES Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 1 hour ago, Cygnia said: More facepalmings, more saying the quiet part out loud Republican group cites notorious Dred Scott ruling as reason Kamala Harris can’t be president From the article: Quote The US Archives states on its site that the Scott v Sandford ruling is “considered by many legal scholars to be the worst ever rendered by the Supreme Court.” Well, 2nd worst now. Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 No. It is still the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 17 minutes ago, Ranxerox said: No. It is still the worst. Got to disagree. The ruling putting presidents above the law is the worst now, and IMO, it's not even close. Mind, that's not trying to minimize the vileness of Dred Scott. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 11 hours ago, csyphrett said: This is why they made the McCane Rule. This organization is just some more flat earthers who need to shut up to quit revealing they are dumb CES Hey, there's no need to be insulting flat earthers like this.... csyphrett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 13 hours ago, Cygnia said: More facepalmings, more saying the quiet part out loud Republican group cites notorious Dred Scott ruling as reason Kamala Harris can’t be president Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 Singer Isaac Hayes' family sues Trump for "Hold On, I'm Coming" use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 Oklahoma teachers were told to use the Bible. There's resistance from schools as students return (msn.com) Quote But he [Bixby Public Schools superintendent Rob Miller] said a Bible simply doesn’t make sense for a seventh grade math classroom or a high school chemistry class. “As a Christian myself, I am a little offended by diminishing the word of God to a mere classroom prop," he said. It is unclear how many, if any, Oklahoma school districts are resuming schools this month with a Bible in every classroom. A spokesperson for the state education department, Dan Isett, said the mandate is not optional and that the superintendent has “a wide range of tools to deal with rogue districts” that do not comply. As one person notes in the article, there are opportunities here for malicious compliance. If anyone imagines having the Bible rammed down their throat will magically make children pious and virtuous, well, somehow I doubt they're remembering the adulteries, murders, usurpations, and other "Game of Thrones" content in the Old Testament. Dean Shomshak Midas, Grailknight, Tom Cowan and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 13 hours ago, Starlord said: Hey, there's no need to be insulting flat earthers like this.... You are right. I have worked with Flat Earthers. Outside of their thing, they are smarter than this. Same with the Trumpers I work with. It comes across as a giant blind spot when you deal with them. These people are showing that they know better than to do this, but are trying to do it anyway. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 18 minutes ago, csyphrett said: You are right. I have worked with Flat Earthers. Outside of their thing, they are smarter than this. Same with the Trumpers I work with. It comes across as a giant blind spot when you deal with them. These people are showing that they know better than to do this, but are trying to do it anyway. CES Because, IMO, they don't care. They're just throwing up....mud, yeah, let's just say mud...by the carload, with the wind tunnel fan on high, and enjoying the spectacle as it hits. ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that can be used to insult, discredit, or some impugn an opponent is fair game for them...because it IS a game to them. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 20 hours ago, unclevlad said: Got to disagree. The ruling putting presidents above the law is the worst now, and IMO, it's not even close. Mind, that's not trying to minimize the vileness of Dred Scott. The whole point of the Bill or Rights was protect individuals and minorities against the tyranny of the majority. Dred Scott was not merely a failure in this but a complete betrayal, and had a crucial role in the start of the Civil War. The presidential immunity ruling is also a horrible ruling and sends all the wrong messages. However, it is not the complete presidential carte blanch that it is made out to be, and the threat of later criminal prosecution has never been one of the major checks on presidential power and overreach. Executive actions can still be struck down by the courts, legislative actions can still still be passed and vetoes overwritten, impeachment is still on the table, people can refuse to obey illegal commands, and most of all the all the electorate can choose not to vote in would-be dictators. Frankly, after all the that Trump has done, if the people vote him back into office, then a strongly conservative SCOTUS is the least of our problems and we have only ourselves to blame. So, yes it is a very bad ruling but it is no Dred Scott. We continue to be a free nation which is more than we could say after Dred Scott without putting one of heck of an asterisk after the statement. However, as always, this freedom must be earned and held onto to. So, in that sense, the presidential immunity has changed nothing. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 2 minutes ago, Ranxerox said: The whole point of the Bill or Rights was protect individuals and minorities against the tyranny of the majority. Dred Scott was not merely a failure in this but a complete betrayal, and had a crucial role in the start of the Civil War. I'd feel your argument was stronger if slavery wasn't intact for multiple decades, despite the Bill of Rights. I also feel the 'limitations' you mention are close to meaningless. Impeachment has been gutted; it's practically impossible. Refusal to follow orders will get you fired for cause, and potentially arrested on serious charges. Executive actions *can* be struck down...but that's long after the fact. It's the degree of outright license this affords the office that's the great change. I think we're pretty much trying to distinguish between 2 Great Evils, tho...who was worse, Cassius or Brutus? (With apologies to the who never read Dante.) So let's agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 I think they are co-equal as they put distinct classes of people outside the rule of law. The slavery one might edge it in that it directly impacts more people, though the presidential one might indirectly affect even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 Georgia governor seeks legal advice on removing Trump-backed Board of Election members Quote Georgia's governor is seeking legal guidance on whether he can boot three members of the state's Board of Elections who were praised by Donald Trump just months ago. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that Gov. Brian Kemp (R-GA) is requesting guidance from the state's attorney general on whether he "has the authority to remove members of the State Election Board." "Voting rights groups, Democrats and even some Republicans have raised alarms about the rightwing majority’s recent votes," according to the report. The three members, Janelle King, Rick Jeffares, and Dr. Janice Johnston, face ethics complaints filed earlier this month that follow their approval of changes that require election boards to search for voting discrepancies before certifying results. Those changes have been criticized by many, including Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. unclevlad, Old Man and Ternaugh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 Gov. Kemp is no champion of voting rights, but as The Economist notes in a recent issue, it was not smart for Trump to pick a fight with him. Kemp is popular among Georgia Republicans; he does not need Trump; and he is not stupid. Economist doesn't go into this, but Kemp must realize that an Election Board that nullifies votes to hand a victory to Trump can also nullify votes to hand a victory to Kemp's next primary challenger. Dean Shomshak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 Even more directly, it challenges the legitimacy of ANY election run by those rules, which undermines the basis of governance. NO legitimate conservative will do anything but cringe at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 Black Trump Supporter Claims Right-Wing Organization Called Him A Slave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 Trump's people set up a campaign photo op in the Arlington National Cemetery, where it's against the law. When someone informed them of this, they attacked that person verbally and physically and now Trump's people are saying that person is mentally ill. Tom Cowan and Old Man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 Trump defines rules as "things I tell you to do." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 There's a bunch of campaign mail on the floor underneath my mail slot, all with the message, "Kamala Harris: Dangerously Liberal". I'm kind of reading it like Chester Cheetah telling me that Cheetos are "Dangerously Cheesy". Trash day's tomorrow, but I wish they weren't high gloss cards or I'd recycle them. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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