Hermit Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Well, Bernie was caught saying not everything Castro did was bad.... Florida is pre-lost, some are saying. (Some being folks on the internet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Walsh Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Whatever. It's the same thing he said 4 years ago, and that Obama said before that. It's politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Joe Biden abandons Presidential Race to run for Senate Seat in South Carollina, claims endorsement by Chinese Leader dead for 23 years. Joe Walsh and Iuz the Evil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaximander Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Anyone who thinks that Castro wasn't that bad or that Cuba is a great country, should spend more time hanging out with Cubans. I know a few. They tend to be great people, but they also live unnecessarily hard lives as a result of the Cuban regime. They often live without the rights and necessities that even our poorest people take for granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 That's true. But it's also true that Cuban are healthier and live longer than Americans, while paying nothing out of pocket for healthcare and paying 1/4 as much per capita as the U.S. In a tiny Third World country that has spent most of its existence under embargo. Cuban refugees in Florida aren't stupid, their beef was with the authoritarian regime, not the Cuban healthcare system. Cygnia, Joe Walsh, Matt the Bruins and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Walsh Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 I haven't heard anyone saying Castro wasn't that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 It's also important to keep in mind what Castro displaced. Sanders is old enough to be well aware of the full history, not just "Castro commie, commies bad." Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Mitt Romney reveals real reason he voted for impeachment. He wanted to host Saturday Night Live. Claims he's funnier then Richard F. Kneip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Harvey Weinstein threatens to release damaging information about an elected official, receives offers of pardons from three different Governors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaximander Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 I have connections who have been to Cuba and who are from Cuba; so, I have a lot of first hand accounts of what life on the inside is like. Cubans who live and work in the tourist friendly areas have it pretty good, but Cubans who live in areas outside of the tourist zones not so much. They struggle for basic survival, they live in constant fear of the secret police, and they lack even the most basic of human rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted February 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Cassandra said: Harvey Weinstein threatens to release damaging information about an elected official, receives offers of pardons from three different Governors. I'm sorry...are we trying to get banned? Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Anaximander said: I have connections who have been to Cuba and who are from Cuba; so, I have a lot of first hand accounts of what life on the inside is like. Cubans who live and work in the tourist friendly areas have it pretty good, but Cubans who live in areas outside of the tourist zones not so much. They struggle for basic survival, they live in constant fear of the secret police, and they lack even the most basic of human rights. No one's defending the Cuban regime or their human rights record. It's just sad that American health care is worse than that of a Third World dictatorship. They don't have to ration insulin in Cuba. They don't have to declare bankruptcy after an ambulance ride in Cuba. They aren't denied care for preexisting conditions in Cuba. Maybe there's a serious Republican plan to improve the American health care system that I haven't seen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaximander Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 One of the biggest drivers in medical costs in our country is an unfriendly regulatory environment that causes doctors and hospitals to spend way to much time, energy, and money jumping through bureaucratic hoops. I have worked in the hospital environment before, and I am currently trying to get back in. Most of the actual effects of our regulations is turning the medical profession into a fear based environment where a lot of resources go into self-protective choices. Reforming the bureaucracy associated with the medical profession to the minimum necessary would go a long ways toward improving services and reducing costs. Another driver in medical costs is the availability of insurance, Medicaid, and Medicare. All of these options increase costs to medical providers by increasing the amount of paper work that is needed to do medicine. In addition, they also function as invisible moneys that have a real affect on the supply and demand curves even though they are effectively fake money. This pushes the value of medical services to the point that they cannot be obtained without outside resources like insurance, Medicaid, and Medicare. You want to decrease the cost of medical services you have to decrease the effects of invisible money. massey and Badger 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 The debate tonight is... wow.. just 30 minutes in or so and it's a colossal #$#$ show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Wow, Bloomberg really a lot of the audience on his side... *Looks at $1750 dollar price tag on each ticket* Oh Matt the Bruins and Joe Walsh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Exactly. We've been counting him out after his disastrous performance in the last debate, and this one is almost as bad, but the man has some seriously deep pockets the likes of which we have not yet seen in American politics. He won't drop out, ever. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Am I crazy, or is Steyer actually looking good here? Comparatively? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Bloomberg makes everyone look good comparatively. Warren did very well again, and Sanders and Biden seem to have avoided gaffes at least. edit: And it was interesting to see Buttigieg avoid mentioning the gender of his spouse in a South Carolina debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 37 minutes ago, Old Man said: Bloomberg makes everyone look good comparatively. Warren did very well again, and Sanders and Biden seem to have avoided gaffes at least. I would say this is Steyer's best debate so far, not that that that's saying much. Warren didn't get the licks in as much as last time, but she stood her ground and yes, did well. LOTS of folks went after Sanders, but while he gained no ground, he weathered them well. I think a few times the booing crowds surprised him, but then I have theories about that crowd (I AM Worried SC will not go as well for Bernie as I Hoped, but we'll see) Biden actually had a few moments were I felt for him. He's clearly getting TICKED... and given the cruddy job the moderators did, I can't blame him. (One of his gun death stats had me going wth? ) I said last time Pete came across as a petty to Amy. Well, he's coming across as kind of petty to everyone... for all his talk of not alienating folks it seems almost as if he's doing that to everyone else. Klobachur was.. uhm unremarkable? Bloomberg was better prepared, and many in the audience clearly favored him. That said, his elitism shines through. The idea that NYC solutions will work anywhere... oh but wait, someo f those solutions sucked but nevermind that... and the "I have the resources" Line maybe i'm too sensitive to a megabillionaire trying to buy the election but it sure seemed like a declaration of "my money will handle EVERYTHING" Maybe it's the contrariness in me, but the more Bloomberg talked, the more I wanted to vote for Bernie and Liz. THe moderators did a terrible job IMO Joe Walsh and Old Man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Hermit said: The debate tonight is... wow.. just 30 minutes in or so and it's a colossal #$#$ show You mean a colossal bleep in comparison to the usual, in other words, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Oh, and from what I could gather there are already suspcions on it being Bloomberg-packed audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Okay. Looks like Vox has details on how tickets were allocated https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/2/25/21153769/south-carolina-democratic-debate-tickets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 That article suggests some facts are still undetermined; but rumors are already circulating, and they can be more powerful than facts, particularly nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 I figured it out, they should have Taylor Swift background music for Bloomberg ads. Because if there are 2 things I am forced to endure, I might as well get them done in one shot. Pariah, Matt the Bruins and TrickstaPriest 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 Taylor Swift has a couple of good songs. Bloomberg does not. Joe Walsh, massey and Cassandra 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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