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6 hours ago, TrickstaPriest said:

And sorry for being so hard on you, Badger.  I actively loathe these 'memes' and 'mind bombs'.  I won't get on my soapbox, but they have gone from being the one tool the little guy to use against major forces... to one of the most single damaging things I've seen to the well being of democracy.

 

Don't worry.  At least for myself, on this type of matter, I am trying to as consistent as possible.  With deadly diseases it probably is a bad idea to move infected patient from infected Point A to non-infected Point B.   No matter how hard the effort is to try to keep it contained in Point B, there is a danger.  Rolling a 4 or better on 3d6 shouldn't be congratulated, when the roll itself was unnecessary.  That was how I felt on the matter at the time, and still do. 

 

And while I wouldn't want the infected to die, regardless of who they are.  I don't want to put others at risk.  It would have been a hard decision to make, and I do mean to stress, to leave him behind like that.  But, it was a decision I felt was necessary.  And yes, if I had to make that decision, I probably would be eaten by guilt, regardless of it being the wise decision.  But, that was the job one chooses when becoming a President.

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At a local level, the emotional response is absolutely off the hook. I have zero (0) local cases, community transmission or otherwise. Schools just closed to April 14. Events closed through April, which will be absolutely devastating to the tourist based economy. Nonprofits closing to March 29. 

 

Okay, fine. Shut it all down. Whatever makes people happy. 

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3 hours ago, Pariah said:

 

Nothing that a bunch of Americans aren't still saying about him now.

 

Yeah, I wasn't a fan of Obama.  But, yeah, he made good decisions, he made bad decisions.  It is what it is.  I tried to be as fair as possible during those 8 years, and hope I was.  I dislike the all-or-nothing extreme political crap-fest.

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3 minutes ago, Iuz the Evil said:

At a local level, the emotional response is absolutely off the hook. I have zero (0) local cases, community transmission or otherwise. Schools just closed to April 14. Events closed through April, which will be absolutely devastating to the tourist based economy. Nonprofits closing to March 29. 

 

Okay, fine. Shut it all down. Whatever makes people happy. 

 

Yeah,  I don't have to go back to work till Tuesday, watching the last 2 days, has pretty much made disgusted with humanity.  I definitely need the break from them.  

 

I keep hearing the theme from Platoon, when I go out.  :whistle:

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7 hours ago, TrickstaPriest said:

 

Yeah.  I'm sorry you have to deal with that.  I have seen the mental gymnastics, most of it involves blaming the media.  That's not an argument I hold for 1 second, and the sheer impact on the Dow Jones is the best numerical indicator I can point to that "sorry, the President doesn't know what he's doing."  If he knew what he was doing, that simply wouldn't have happened that badly.

 

The media isn't great.  It never is.  But the 'waiting until the last second to do anything' seems to be our calling card.

 

Yeah, I have to admit I am disgusted with the media attempts at creating hysteria on this.  But, that has nothing to do with Trump's mismanagement.  I've got more than enough disgust to go around on this issue. :(

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11 hours ago, Iuz the Evil said:

At a local level, the emotional response is absolutely off the hook. I have zero (0) local cases, community transmission or otherwise. Schools just closed to April 14. Events closed through April, which will be absolutely devastating to the tourist based economy. Nonprofits closing to March 29. 

 

Okay, fine. Shut it all down. Whatever makes people happy. 

 

IIRC, you live in Sacramento.  I live a short way away in Modesto and work in a hospital lab.  At our hospital we have about a dozen rule out coronavirus cases.  Of the cases that we have sent out for testing, none have come back positive.  But here is the stinger, only three have come back so far.  We have been forced to send them to the health department for testing, and the health department has been incredibly slow getting back results.

 

I suspect that Sacramento is in the same boat we are, full of hospitals with lots of possible coronavirus cases and waiting on slow to come test results.  IOW, don't be surprised if the number goes from zero to a lot very quickly once testing ramps up.

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15 minutes ago, Ranxerox said:

 

IIRC, you live in Sacramento.  I live a short way away in Modesto and work in a hospital lab.  At our hospital we have about a dozen rule out coronavirus cases.  Of the cases that we have sent out for testing, none have come back positive.  But here is the stinger, only three have come back so far.  We have been forced to send them to the health department for testing, and the health department has been incredibly slow getting back results.

 

I suspect that Sacramento is in the same boat we are, full of hospitals with lots of possible coronavirus cases and waiting on slow to come test results.  IOW, don't be surprised if the number goes from zero to a lot very quickly once testing ramps up.

Heh, I live in Napa actually. The local Department of Public Health is one of the Divisions I'm over in our Agency. We had no resident cases last I looked (8pm Friday), through local government testing or private sector including local hospitals and folks with local zip codes tested in adjoining Counties, that have been tested positive. Could change for sure, but current rate is zero. 

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2 hours ago, death tribble said:

So Trump bans people from Europe (26 Countries) coming to the States. Did he forget that Ireland and Britain are actually part of Europe ? Possibly. Or is it that he has a golf course in Scotland ?

 

I am sure it has nothing to do with how displeased Trump and others in his administration are with the EU's proposed tax changes to address the digital economy.

 

The Canadian PM is under self-isolation because his wife was diagnosed with COVID-19 shortly after her return from a trip to the UK.

 

 

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At first I thought the Trump administration was only stumbling toward dictatorship due to the President's paranoia and obsession with "being in charge." Now I'm starting to believe that, even if it wasn't initially a deliberate plan, it's evolving into one. :(

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4 minutes ago, Pariah said:

Compared to the $1.5T announced last week, it IS a drop in the bucket.

 

Oh no, that was just a loan and they'll repay it so blah blah blah excuses because it's okay to bail out banks but not people 

 

 

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I saw only unprepared reading. He seems like a deer caught in the headlight every time he reads one of those prepared statements, as if he can't take five minutes to read it over a few times before addressing the nation. I think the delivery as much as the content of his speeches is contributing to the market crashes and public unease. Every time he speaks, we have a run on the stores here.

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I only caught part of the Q&A session with the 65 'experts' around him.  I was surprised he let others talk and/or was even there...maybe he thinks Pence is taking his spotlight.

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