Old Man Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, Hermit said: Makes sense. If Money=Free speech, then preventing profit even to save lives must be censorship! This isn't lowering my blood pressure at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNakagawa Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Exclusive-Captain-of-aircraft-carrier-with-15167883.php So, apparently the Navy is looking to remove this captain from command of the USS Theodore Roosevelt, which had to evacuate sailors in Guam following an outbreak of Covid19. Which was detected after he approved shore leave in Vietnam in March. And probably elsewhere in April. This is probably going to get complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Old Man said: This isn't lowering my blood pressure at all. Good news, you can buy stock in companies that make blood pressure meds and thus your voice is heard! Ragitsu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Starlord said: It could take 20 weeks for some Americans to receive stimulus checks according to the IRS So ,pretty soon bureaucratically speaking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Liaden Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 Wow, Trump ducked out of that one fast. For once he realized that potato was too hot for him to handle. But he really threw Pence to the lions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: Wow, Trump ducked out of that one fast. For once he realized that potato was too hot for him to handle. But he really threw Pence to the lions. Back in the day, he was tearing it up on the dodgeball court... ...when his bone spurs weren't acting up, anyhow. pinecone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 It's amazing to me that Trump actually called out Pence for answering a question with several minutes of smooth irrelevancy. Like a classic politician. Hey Donnie, that's what you keep Mike around for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 pinecone and TrickstaPriest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 3, 2020 Report Share Posted April 3, 2020 I want to restart the economy based on sampo as currency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 I would think a Sampo would be a tremendous boost to the economy. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 ...I thought it was this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 On 4/1/2020 at 1:31 AM, Starlord said: Actually, I've been quite impressed with the leadership here in Ohio so far on Coronavirus. Gov DeWine and Dr Acton acted swiftly and have been ahead of the curve and their daily television briefings of have been rock solid. DeWine was mentioned on today's episode of The Daily, the NY Times radio program/podcastt. The subject was the resurgence of governors in national politics, arguing they'd sort of been eclipsed in public consciousness for the last decade or so as culture wars intensified and politics became more nationally focused. But with Trump making the federal government irrelevant for two months in responding to coronavirus, it's been left to governors -- and the difference in their responses has been stark. NY's Cupmo has been the most visible, but DeWine was noted as an example that Republican governors have not all parrotted Trump's line that everything's fine. Conversely, Florida's DeSantis was called out as particularly psittaceous. Here in The Other Washington, yesterday Gov. Inslee said something good: We are not helpless in this crisis. "We have power in this thing. And the power we have is we can use our heads." And today he vetoes a passel of bills he'd previously worked hard to get passed, as a way to cut $445 million from the state budget over the next two years. Because state revenues are going to take a beating, and there just won't be money for everything. Dean Shomshak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Yesterday the BBC interviewed perennial liberal Noam Chomsky, who amazingly is still alive (age 92, IIRC). He said the coronavirous was only the latest evidence that the radical capitalism of the last 4 decades or so Just Doesn't Work and we need to return to the days when corporations were regulated and billionaires were taxed. To get an opinion from a very different source, today the BBC interviewed the editor of the business magazine Forbes. Who then said almost the same thing as Noam Chomsky: Milton Friedmanish, only stockholders matter free market absolutism does not work and must be changed. Corporations also need to operate for the benefit of workers, communities and society as a whole. The editor claimed that many of the billionaires he's interviewed say the same thing, though few are as yet willing to say it in public. Okay, so talk is cheap. But I was surprised even to hear such talk from one of the cheerleaders of big business and big money. Dean Shomshak Joe Walsh, assault and L. Marcus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Yesterday the BBC interviewed perennial liberal Noam Chomsky, who amazingly is still alive (age 92, IIRC). He said the coronavirous was only the latest evidence that the radical capitalism of the last 4 decades or so Just Doesn't Work and we need to return to the days when corporations were regulated and billionaires were taxed. To get an opinion from a very different source, today the BBC interviewed the editor of the business magazine Forbes. Who then said almost the same thing as Noam Chomsky: Milton Friedmanish, only stockholders matter free market absolutism does not work and must be changed. Corporations also need to operate for the benefit of workers, communities and society as a whole. The editor claimed that many of the billionaires he's interviewed say the same thing, though few are as yet willing to say it in public. Okay, so talk is cheap. But I was surprised even to hear such talk from one of the cheerleaders of big business and big money. Dean Shomshak Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 There was a time when religious, philosophic, and pragmatic ethics was a required component of most economics curricula. L. Marcus and Lawnmower Boy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Cygnia said: ...I thought it was this... Well, I was going MST3K reference. (given the movie in context I did suspect it may have had some Norse mythology references, to be fair) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: I would think a Sampo would be a tremendous boost to the economy. 😁 Mark my words: the sampan industry is going to take off aaaaaaaany day now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, DShomshak said: Yesterday the BBC interviewed perennial liberal Noam Chomsky, who amazingly is still alive (age 92, IIRC). He said the coronavirous was only the latest evidence that the radical capitalism of the last 4 decades or so Just Doesn't Work and we need to return to the days when corporations were regulated and billionaires were taxed. To get an opinion from a very different source, today the BBC interviewed the editor of the business magazine Forbes. Who then said almost the same thing as Noam Chomsky: Milton Friedmanish, only stockholders matter free market absolutism does not work and must be changed. Corporations also need to operate for the benefit of workers, communities and society as a whole. The editor claimed that many of the billionaires he's interviewed say the same thing, though few are as yet willing to say it in public. Okay, so talk is cheap. But I was surprised even to hear such talk from one of the cheerleaders of big business and big money. Dean Shomshak Forbes said that Trump's commerce secretary had lied about how much money he made to get on their billionaire list. It's no surprise they would say that big business only acts to secure a profit for the board and not for anyone else CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: There was a time when religious, philosophic, and pragmatic ethics was a required component of most economics curricula. I knew a guy who tried to say that trickle down worked if there was a certain amount of growth. I was like you're an idiot. Don't you read the paper you deliver? CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 My favorite interpretation of trickle-down economics was articulated on Jim Henson's satirical sitcom, Dinosaurs. Most rich people live in big houses on the tops of hills. If we give the rich more money, some of it is bound to fall out of their pockets and trickle down the hills to where the poor people live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Trickle-down economics: mistaking urine for lemonade isn't a bug, it's a feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted April 4, 2020 Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Trickle Down Economics is the most inane policy ever invented. It assumes a progressive and altruistic streak in the rich that does not exist. It is however a great policy if you're rich and want to justify keeping your wealth. "hey...the more I make...the more will trickle down to the ….little people".' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Dr. MID-Nite said: It is however a great policy if you're rich and want to justify keeping your wealth. That's literally its entire reason for existence. Supply side economics has been known to be fake since before WWII. It's nothing more than a disingenuous cover story for the rich. They know it's a lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Dr. MID-Nite said: "hey...the more I make...the more will trickle down to the ….little people".' That's how leprechauns fill their pots of gold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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