Starlord Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 A comparison of Gabbard and Harris political views: https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/tulsi-gabbard/ https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/kamala-harris/ ScottishFox and Old Man 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 My morning paper printed an AP article on Republicans' early attacks on Harris, noting they are all over the map and often contradict each other. Stuff like: She's a Radical Left Police Defunder; but oh noes, she didn't prosecute cops when she was a DA. The attacks on her changing/nuanced positions amount to, "How dare she not adopt a cartoonishly extreme position we can attack her on." GOP strategist Frank Luntz came out and said she wouldn't be an easy target, and attacks could easily backfire. Dean Shomshak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 hours ago, ScottishFox said: I was surprised by this pick given how badly Harris performed after debating Tulsi Gabbard. Which, full disclosure, would have been my preferred choice for Biden's VP Pick. IIRC, I believe the Gabbard attack was addressed in the article linked by Cygnia here. The upshot: It wasn't so much as win for Gabbard as it was a strategic error in refusing to discuss the topics by Harris, because Gabbard was distorting the facts: Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 The most interesting attack on Harris, I think, came from Trump himself: He accused her of being disrespectful" in her grilling of Bret Kavanaugh... and in her debate attack on Joe Biden. I mean, that isn't even dog-whistle subtext, it's standing on the porch with a bullhorn yelling, "Here, Fido!" How dare the woman of color not show deference to the white man? Even when the man is trying to push Trump from office? Dean Shomshak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 President Trump accusing Senator Harris of disrespectful behavior brings to my mind images of pots and kettles. Lord Liaden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 45 minutes ago, Pattern Ghost said: IIRC, I believe the Gabbard attack was addressed in the article linked by Cygnia here. The upshot: It wasn't so much as win for Gabbard as it was a strategic error in refusing to discuss the topics by Harris, because Gabbard was distorting the facts: I found an article I liked better (seemed more objective by my estimate) though. Basically the attacks by Biden and Gabbard during that debate were a mixed bag of hits, misses and incorrect details (some substantially so), but there were fair criticisms in the mix. https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/08/01/democratic-debate-kamala-harris-tulsi-gabbard-joe-biden-fact-check/ She's changed her views on several issues and admitted to being wrong (which I actually like in people) a couple of times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Pariah said: Given the ages of Donald Trump and Joe Biden, it's not entirely inconceivable to think that either Mike Pence or Kamala Harris will ascend to the Presidency before the 2024 election. There’s aging and then there’s aging. One old man can ride a bike while wearing a mask. The other can barely walk down a ramp or drink a glass of water, needed a golf cart to attend the G20, and has a history of debilitating bone spurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 9:49 PM, archer said: I was highly in favor of Andrew Yang, having worked for a time in his campaign and being very familiar with his stances on the issues. Not that he was ever in contention for consideration. I do hope a Biden Administration can find a role for Yang. His interviews on ATC and other programs, as well as his debate appearances, impressed me with his intelligence, coherence, public spirit and originality. I mean, I don't know if Universal Basic Income is a good idea or a bad idea, but it's an attempt at a practical solution and escape from ideological/cultural trench warfare. Dean Shomshak Matt the Bruins and Hermit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 Fantastic. Trump admits he’s blocking postal cash to stop mail-in votes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 10 hours ago, DShomshak said: My morning paper printed an AP article on Republicans' early attacks on Harris, noting they are all over the map and often contradict each other. Stuff like: She's a Radical Left Police Defunder; but oh noes, she didn't prosecute cops when she was a DA. The attacks on her changing/nuanced positions amount to, "How dare she not adopt a cartoonishly extreme position we can attack her on." GOP strategist Frank Luntz came out and said she wouldn't be an easy target, and attacks could easily backfire. Dean Shomshak She has struck me as a politician whose views are based on the political winds at given point (of course that is most politicians to a point). That could be argued as to why she seems all over the map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 3:06 PM, ScottishFox said: OK, I've rambled on for too long. I'm sorry I didn't directly respond before, I've just been in too dark a place to give it any justice. At the least, I appreciate you addressing the spirit of the content I was trying to portray. The ghosting and comments is awful. I agree the sentiment is terrible. Stuff that's going on here where I live, people mass buying plates, guns, ammo, and the US's track record of a multitude of white supremacy organizations, makes me extremely nervous from something completely different. I don't disagree that there's a real danger of going too far from the left, but I do genuinely fear those right-wing organizations acting out in particular - much in the way that German group was caught, or the way the Proud Boys were caught. They have training, intent, equipment, and now both a President and mass sentiment supporting them. 'I' have angry people on twitter, and I guess these protests... I guess I have a hard time equalizing the general danger. I don't disagree, as far as human behavior goes, it sucks though. And no matter what happens, its likely to get worse. But the general civil unrest from coronavirus is a whole other kettle of fish on top of that... As are the overall societal direction comments you've described. It sucks. It's been discussed among people I know that this new form of politics, firehosing as much negative commentary about everything to see what sticks, is probably so volatile it's going to completely ruin politics in this country. 16 hours ago, death tribble said: I have just seen one of the most egregious examples of politics in America. Legislation on shower heads is going to be changed just to benefit the President because his hair do counts. More to the point on this, it's going to increase water usage pointlessly. More water wasted, one of our most precious resources, for no purpose. I'd wonder if water privatization is going to be up after schools... but who knows 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Pariah said: Fantastic. Trump admits he’s blocking postal cash to stop mail-in votes Since he didn't say so in so many words, nothing will come of it before the elections. No action will be taken to change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/how-to-vote-2020/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 U.S. Postal Service Confirms It Has Removed Mailboxes in Portland and Eugene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 Postal Service is also removing boxes and offices in Montana: ATC interviewed Montana Senator Jon Tester (D) about it, and he's not happy. The reason given is that these branches handle so little mail they aren't profitable. Sen. Tester points out that that they are also necessary for the lives of many Montanans, and that the Postal Service is not a for-profit company. Even more sinister, the Postal Service has removed hundreds of sorting machines around the country, which will slow mail delivery, thus ensuring that mail-in ballots arrive too late. Dean Shomshak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cowan Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, DShomshak said: Postal Service is also removing boxes and offices in Montana: ATC interviewed Montana Senator Jon Tester (D) about it, and he's not happy. The reason given is that these branches handle so little mail they aren't profitable. Sen. Tester points out that that they are also necessary for the lives of many Montanans, and that the Postal Service is not a for-profit company. Even more sinister, the Postal Service has removed hundreds of sorting machines around the country, which will slow mail delivery, thus ensuring that mail-in ballots arrive too late. Dean Shomshak and the call not to use the USPS? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-ups-fedex-exclusive/exclusive-ups-fedex-warn-they-cannot-carry-ballots-like-u-s-postal-service-idUSKCN25B00I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 Chad Wolf and Mike Cuccunninni have been designated as illegal appointments by the inspector general of DHS and should step down. Whether that will happen or not is not really a thing because it will be no CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted August 16, 2020 Report Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just when you thought it could not get any more strange Dr. MID-Nite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 16, 2020 Report Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 hours ago, wcw43921 said: Just when you thought it could not get any more strange WTAF?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted August 16, 2020 Report Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 hours ago, wcw43921 said: Just when you thought it could not get any more strange Not that weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted August 16, 2020 Report Share Posted August 16, 2020 Robert Trump is reported dead, no official cause yet CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted August 16, 2020 Report Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Sociotard said: Not that weird. I doubt that any of those included a video that showed Obama being sworn into office on The Bible by Washington and Lincoln--or even Frederick Douglass and Oprah Winfrey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Old Man Posted August 16, 2020 Report Share Posted August 16, 2020 USPS announces sharp price increase on package delivery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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