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If Doc Democracy or I start cursing or getting upset You'll know it is the election that has caused it,. I voted and helped take mum to vote. Had to walk the wheelchair down the hill as it would

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23 minutes ago, megaplayboy said:

Senile people can't be "well-rehearsed" and they can't hit all the nonverbal "marks" for a speech like that.  

I think he will handle Trump in short order at the debates.  In fact, he may do so well, and Trump so poorly, in the first debate, that there may not be a 2nd or 3rd debate.

 

Obviously, he has not settled into 'true senility', or 'Alzheimer's'/'Dementia'.  This is hyperbole.  I won't comment any further on my view of his mental capabilities as I've already been given a moderator warning on the subject.

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2 hours ago, megaplayboy said:

Joe Biden put a few nails in the coffin of the "Joe is senile" argument last night.  

 

But I fear he'll be hobbled by the DNC adopting a ban on assault weapons as part of their platform. The party chose Biden in part to lure moderate Republicans, but a move like this could very well scare some of them back toward Trump. Americans who want such a ban were almost certain to vote Democrat anyway.

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Joe misspeaks a lot in live conversations. But he's been doing that for decades. I think his brain's in good enough shape for the job. It's certainly a step up from what we have now.

 

Leaning hard into gun control this election will probably hurt them more than their choice of candidates, as LL points out.

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We’ll see. Public opinion has been trending in favor of stricter gun control over the past few years.   And NRA members recently found out they’d been taken in by a pyramid scheme run by Wayne Lapierre.  But more to the point, I don’t think gun control is currently a top five issue for anyone. 

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3 hours ago, Old Man said:

We’ll see. Public opinion has been trending in favor of stricter gun control over the past few years.   And NRA members recently found out they’d been taken in by a pyramid scheme run by Wayne Lapierre.  But more to the point, I don’t think gun control is currently a top five issue for anyone. 

 

...except my brother-in-law. He flat-out said that there's no way he can vote for Joe Biden because if he dies, Kamala Harris has promised to issue an executive order to ban assault weapons and take away his AR-15. He proudly proclaimed himself a "one-issue voter".

 

He's almost certainly not alone in this.

 

 

 

19 hours ago, Cygnia said:

 

That Betsy DeVos' name appears in the first sentence of this article surprises me not even a little bit.

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7 hours ago, Old Man said:

We’ll see. Public opinion has been trending in favor of stricter gun control over the past few years.   And NRA members recently found out they’d been taken in by a pyramid scheme run by Wayne Lapierre.  But more to the point, I don’t think gun control is currently a top five issue for anyone. 

Yeah I agree in the trend until  at least until this summer.

 

For good or for ill, certain incidents helped some to remember why they were sht of gun control orignally

1 minute ago, Badger said:

Yeah I agree in the trend until  at least until this summer.

 

For good or for ill, certain incidents helped some to remember why they were sht of gun control orignally

 

Anyway I think you might be able to convince the masses on either gun control or defunding the police. For both, they will some 2nd thoughts.

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I've been trying to find alternatives to mail-in ballots for "absentee voting" during the American election. Of the other available choices: In the age of Internet hacking, I would be much more concerned about the security of email ballots than paper ones. Courier services are essentially privatized mail, but with no oversight of their security. Faxes strike me as being as easy to "stuff" as mailboxes. The latter two are more expensive than mail, less accessible for many people, and incapable of handling the capacity of voting compared to USPS. I can see no practical reason to vilify mail-in balloting specifically, other than with the intent to suppress the vote.

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1 hour ago, Tom Cowan said:

 

Donald Trump shows no sign of factoring ethics or even dignity into his decision-making process. His only restraint appears based on what he believes he can get away with. I expect he'll keep pushing that until someone effectively pushes back.

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39 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said:

I've been trying to find alternatives to mail-in ballots for "absentee voting" during the American election. i

Mail-in ballots don't have to go through USPS. There is always a direct drop-off location. When I lived in Oregon, I often used them because I was a cheapskate and didn't want to pay postage. Anyway, they look a lot like post boxes. Just pop in your ballot. If you are registered to vote in the US election, just ask your local election office where yours is.

 

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Just now, Tom Cowan said:

I was thinking 'only party members' should be using mail-in ballots?  Sounds 2020? or is that 1984, USSR and PRC?

 

During the years that my mother and I were registered as Republican*, it was extremely common for us to receive absentee ballot applications sent by the local Republican Party (NV in my case, ME in her case). It usually had language somewhere on it that it was to ensure that our vote was counted. I usually would use the early voting polls at the mall or local plazas, so I didn't need an absentee ballot, but Mom didn't really get out of the house, so she'd always use the form to order her ballot, and then vote for who she thought was best (which, in her later years, was almost always Democrats).

 

 

*I changed my party affiliation to Independent sometime after Trump's win. While I had voted for the occasional Republican down-ballot in the past, I hadn't voted for a Republican for President since my first time voting (for George H. W. Bush in 1988). 

 

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9 hours ago, Sociotard said:

Mail-in ballots don't have to go through USPS. There is always a direct drop-off location. When I lived in Oregon, I often used them because I was a cheapskate and didn't want to pay postage. Anyway, they look a lot like post boxes. Just pop in your ballot. If you are registered to vote in the US election, just ask your local election office where yours is.

 

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I think it was on the Rachel Maddow Show this week, but one of the states was changing their rules only one of those kinds of drop boxes per county: outside the county board of elections.

 

I'm wanting to say it was Ohio, but I couldn't swear to that. 

 

If those kinds of ballot drop boxes were everywhere to the point that very few people would see the need to actually use the US Postal Service, that would solve most of my concerns in having nationwide elections which were 100% mail-in ballots. 

 

 

Edit: 

Didn't find that clip from the Rachel Maddow Show but here's an article on the "one ballot drop box per county" decision in Ohio.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/08/ohio-secretary-of-state-frank-larose-no-extra-ballot-drop-boxes-for-november-election.html

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Washington, of course, has scads of 'em.

 

I expect that Republican zealots *will* try interfering with mail-in ballots as Archer has described. Maybe even trying to rip out and destroy drop boxes in Dem-friendly regions. But I also expect attempts to thwart in-person voting, such as groups of armed men outside polling places demanding to see voter registration cards (according to a recent newspaper article, the law against this sort of blatant voter intimidation was repealed). I have also heard the suggestion that Putin may try interfering by blacking out cities on Election Day, so people will be reluctant to leave their homes and electronic voting machines can't run until generators are hooked up. (it's already established that the power grid's security is grossly insufficient.) It's also possible that voter rolls are being hacked into, to cast further doubt on the results.

 

It's why Dems need massive turnout, big enough to overcome the likely fraud and suppression. Trump will still claim fraud, but but with a big enough, clear enough loss, his own attempts to rig the vote just become more indictments.

 

No sitting out this election because no candidate is precisely what you wanted.

 

Dean Shomshak

 

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On 8/22/2020 at 8:19 AM, Sociotard said:

Mail-in ballots don't have to go through USPS. There is always a direct drop-off location. When I lived in Oregon, I often used them because I was a cheapskate and didn't want to pay postage. Anyway, they look a lot like post boxes. Just pop in your ballot. If you are registered to vote in the US election, just ask your local election office where yours is.

 

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We have these boxes as well where I live. While there is no actual regulation that requires this, I believe that they should be located at every public library, public government office, and every public school. What's more, they can't be in some hidden corner that would be hard to find and get to, but be located basically right off the road so that people will be able to get to it with no problem and not cause no problems with traffic.

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