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You remember 4, 8, and 12 years ago a candidate going so far beyond the pale that their own party disavowed their statements? You remember former Presidents from the candidate's own party refusing to

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Admittedly, the result would have been the same if the boats had flown Biden or Black Lives Matter flags. As King Canute reminded us, the natural world doesn't give a rat's ass about mortal desires. The tide will come in;  plagues will not magically disappear; and stormy lakes will sink open-sided boats. But Trumpists do seem unusually determined to ignore reality.

 

Dean Shomshak

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14 minutes ago, DShomshak said:

Admittedly, the result would have been the same if the boats had flown Biden or Black Lives Matter flags. As King Canute reminded us, the natural world doesn't give a rat's ass about mortal desires. The tide will come in;  plagues will not magically disappear; and stormy lakes will sink open-sided boats. But Trumpists do seem unusually determined to ignore reality.

 

Dean Shomshak

 

"Reality has a well-known liberal bias." -- Stephen Colbert

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1 hour ago, DShomshak said:

Admittedly, the result would have been the same if the boats had flown Biden or Black Lives Matter flags. As King Canute reminded us, the natural world doesn't give a rat's ass about mortal desires. The tide will come in;  plagues will not magically disappear; and stormy lakes will sink open-sided boats. But Trumpists do seem unusually determined to ignore reality.

 

Dean Shomshak

 

CBS story says the problem was because there were SO MANY boats in the water;  it caused the large wakes.  Ergo, it wasn't the natural world.

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Trump loves turning a mountain into a mountain range.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-jennifer-griffin-donald-trump-atlantic-war-dead-011443562.html

 

He really should remember the lessons of Joe McCarthy.  Thou Shalt Not Attack (or diss) The US Military.

 

It's unlikely that any single factor could be isolated, should he lose, but it would be very interesting to me to get exit poll numbers about "what led you to switch away from Trump?"  Here's hoping this is the straw to break the camel's back.

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1 hour ago, unclevlad said:

 

CBS story says the problem was because there were SO MANY boats in the water;  it caused the large wakes.  Ergo, it wasn't the natural world.


Many boats that deliberately ignored the speed limit/wake generation rules that were put there for their own safety. The metaphor is almost perfect. 

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15 minutes ago, Old Man said:


Many boats that deliberately ignored the speed limit/wake generation rules that were put there for their own safety. The metaphor is almost perfect. 

 

I did notice they were moving briskly.

I do have to say, tho, that ignoring basic safety advice is a secondary pandemic, at least in the US.

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1 hour ago, unclevlad said:

Trump loves turning a mountain into a mountain range.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-jennifer-griffin-donald-trump-atlantic-war-dead-011443562.html

 

He really should remember the lessons of Joe McCarthy.  Thou Shalt Not Attack (or diss) The US Military.

 

It's unlikely that any single factor could be isolated, should he lose, but it would be very interesting to me to get exit poll numbers about "what led you to switch away from Trump?"  Here's hoping this is the straw to break the camel's back.

 

Trump's recent spate of stumbling may be the cumulative effect of how many times he's shot himself in the foot.

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4 hours ago, Cygnia said:

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The legend lives on from the Apprentice on down

of the big oompaloompa called Donnie

The Donnie, it is said, always has some bed head

and he's friends with a loon named Giulani

With a MAGA flag load, 26,000 or more stowed, 

than that big, ole fat Trump boat weighed empty

that good ship and true was a bone to be chewed

when the polls of November vote truly

 

 

 

PS - think Gordon Lightfoot....

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4 hours ago, Starlord said:

 

The legend lives on from the Apprentice on down

of the big oompaloompa called Donnie

The Donnie, it is said, always has some bed head

and he's friends with a loon named Giulani

With a MAGA flag load, 26,000 or more stowed, 

than that big, ole fat Trump boat weighed empty

that good ship and true was a bone to be chewed

when the polls of November vote truly

 

 

 

PS - think Gordon Lightfoot....

 

Wow, are you showing your age..........

So am I cuz I didn't need the hint......

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Ethnic fears eroding democratic attitudes among Republicans ...

news.vanderbilt.edu/2020/09/04/ethnic-fears...

Bartels began by analyzing the responses of 1,151 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents to a January 2020 survey on topics such as violence in pursuit of political ends, respect for the ...

 

Sadly, this should surprise no one here. Prof. Bartels finds that 50.7% pf Republican (and Republican-leaning independent) respondents believe "the traditional American way of life is disappearing so fast that we may have to use force to save it." And the #1 traite correlating with antidemocratic views is ethnic antagonism -- beliefs that immigrants, Blacks, Latinos and other "out groups" are taking more than their fair share and eroding national culture. Or as another article on Bartels' findings put it, "Republicans value whiteness more than democracy."

I was guided to Bartels' research by columnist David Brooks. I never thught the center-right Brooks was particularly excitable, but he predicts blood in the streets as Trumpian zealots rage at seeing their hero's early lead slip away as mail-in ballots are counted. It is vitally necessary that the Left restrain its own zealots from taking up arms to oppose them: Donald Trump needs to suffer moral defeat by showing anyone undecided that his is the side of lawless violence.

Dean Shomshak

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1 hour ago, DShomshak said:

Ethnic fears eroding democratic attitudes among Republicans ...

news.vanderbilt.edu/2020/09/04/ethnic-fears...

Bartels began by analyzing the responses of 1,151 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents to a January 2020 survey on topics such as violence in pursuit of political ends, respect for the ...

 

Sadly, this should surprise no one here. Prof. Bartels finds that 50.7% pf Republican (and Republican-leaning independent) respondents believe "the traditional American way of life is disappearing so fast that we may have to use force to save it." And the #1 traite correlating with antidemocratic views is ethnic antagonism -- beliefs that immigrants, Blacks, Latinos and other "out groups" are taking more than their fair share and eroding national culture. Or as another article on Bartels' findings put it, "Republicans value whiteness more than democracy."

 

 

This isn't Trumpian;  he's taking it to extremes but it's been a part of the Republican party line for a long time now.  "Law and order" is specifically played as racial fears.  

It's also not just racial.  Republican campaigns have been heavily oriented to fear-mongering...you're gonna lose all your guns, the Democrats are Socialists, and on and on.  Yes, you can definitely make a case that the Republican Party has pushed autocratic and plutocratic policies, AND if you want a real Deep State conspiracy...they've worked to ensure they maintain their lead in both areas.

 

One can argue that Trump might be the worst thing to happen to the Republicans, if you buy this storyline;  it may well split the Party.  Because there are many conservative-minded people who would be appalled.

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