archer Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 John McCain's widow, Cindy McCain to endorse Biden. Considering how close the election in AZ looks, that could make a difference. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/22/cindy-mccain-to-endorse-joe-biden-420099 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 50 minutes ago, ScottishFox said: Oh, I was thinking it would be in the usual Joe Rogan podcast format. You have both guys at the table and you just talk for a few hours. Maybe 90 minutes - each - without the other guy there discussing policies and governing approaches and what not and then an hour with both guys present where they can challenge each other on hot topics. I'm afraid I can't see Trump agreeing to let Biden talk for 90 minutes uninterrupted. 39 minutes ago, archer said: John McCain's widow, Cindy McCain to endorse Biden. Considering how close the election in AZ looks, that could make a difference. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/22/cindy-mccain-to-endorse-joe-biden-420099 I'm surprised it took her this long. John McCain and Joe Biden were close friends for many years, despite their political differences. Products of a different era in politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/22/climate/climate-change-future.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage Opening paragraph if it's paywalled for you: Quote America is now under siege by climate change in ways that scientists have warned about for years. But there is a second part to their admonition: Decades of growing crisis are already locked into the global ecosystem and cannot be reversed. Which many of us recognize. It was interesting to see it today, tho, after our comments here yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 42 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: I'm afraid I can't see Trump agreeing to let Biden talk for 90 minutes uninterrupted. That's why I said, "without the other guy there". I completely agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: Now, sure. But alligators were once common in Canada's Arctic. If you plan to move north when Tennessee turns to desert, you'd better start learning French. Not desert, Swamp and Marsh. Tennessee is slowly becoming hot mordor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 Cindy McCain Endorses Biden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, Hermit said: Not desert, Swamp and Marsh. Tennessee is slowly becoming hot mordor Wait a sec...it can't be. California's become Gorgoroth...... Tennessee can be the Dead Marshes. Hermit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, unclevlad said: Wait a sec...it can't be. California's become Gorgoroth...... Tennessee can be the Dead Marshes. I sink into the mire corrected unclevlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hermit said: I sink into the mire corrected Oh, so you're gonna run for office!!! Seems kinda late to get your name on the ballot.... Hermit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 13 hours ago, archer said: John McCain's widow, Cindy McCain to endorse Biden. Considering how close the election in AZ looks, that could make a difference. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/22/cindy-mccain-to-endorse-joe-biden-420099 10 hours ago, wcw43921 said: Cindy McCain Endorses Biden Scooped by Archer, WCW... I only hope it makes a difference, but I'm not counting on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 15 hours ago, ScottishFox said: That's why I said, "without the other guy there". I completely agree with you. And that's why I specified, "Trump agree". The conditions for any such interview/debate would need to be accepted by both participants in advance, and I can't imagine he'd buy that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 16 hours ago, Hermit said: Not desert, Swamp and Marsh. Tennessee is slowly becoming hot mordor Arkansas and Louisiana say welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 Getting away from daily events for a moment, Freakonomics Radio looks at America's political parties as a duopoly or rival businesses, like Coke and Pepsi or Schick and Gillette. Though I would still argue there are deep and meaningful differences between the parties and what they are trying to achieve beyond their self-perpetuation as fundraising machines. September 2, 2020 America's Hidden Duopoly (Ep. 356 Rebroadcast) We all know our political system is "broken" — but what if that's not true? Some say the Republicans and Democrats constitute a wildly successful industry that has colluded to kill off competition, stifle reform, and drive the country apart. So what are you going to do about it? See omnystudio.com/policies/listener for privacy information. Drat, the "Listen" link didn't paste in. I'll try to get it. Dean Shomshak Let's try this: America’s Hidden Duopoly (Ep. 356) - Freakonomics freakonomics.com/podcast/politics-industry America’s Hidden Duopoly (Ep. 356) October 31, 2018 @ 11:00pm. by Stephen J. Dubner. Produced by Greg Rosalsky. Listen now: Download. In the most recent two-year election cycle, the political industry generated roughly $16 billion in revenue. Meanwhile, customer satisfaction — that is, from voters — is at a historic low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, DShomshak said: I would still argue there are deep and meaningful differences between the parties and what they are trying to achieve beyond their self-perpetuation as fundraising machines. I argued that before Trump won the 2016 Republican nomination. Thanks for the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 I agree that the Republican and Democratic parties have been extremely successful at advancing their own interests. Until recently. We're in our present situation because they both committed the one unpardonable sin for corporate entities: alienating their client base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 8 hours ago, BoloOfEarth said: Scooped by Archer, WCW... I only hope it makes a difference, but I'm not counting on it. Apologies to Archer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 50 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: I agree that the Republican and Democratic parties have been extremely successful at advancing their own interests. Until recently. We're in our present situation because they both committed the one unpardonable sin for corporate entities: alienating their client base. I think that you misunderstand who their client base it. 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Reports that the Trump campaign plan for losing is to say the election was fraudulent, then tell State Legislatures in states with Republican majorities to ignore the votes and appoint Republican Electors to the College. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/23/report-trump-campaign-actively-discussing-radical-measures-to-bypass-election-results/#797ac2654800 The Constitution does say that Electors get chosen how the State Legislature decides (Governors might not even get a veto). That said, it also says the Federal Government can pass laws that overrule that. And we DO have those laws. I'll look them up later. King Red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 15 hours ago, Ranxerox said: I think that you misunderstand who their client base it. 😏 No, they're the ones who misunderstand it. That's the mistake that leads to heads rolling. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Sociotard said: Reports that the Trump campaign plan for losing is to say the election was fraudulent, then tell State Legislatures in states with Republican majorities to ignore the votes and appoint Republican Electors to the College. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/23/report-trump-campaign-actively-discussing-radical-measures-to-bypass-election-results/#797ac2654800 The Constitution does say that Electors get chosen how the State Legislature decides (Governors might not even get a veto). That said, it also says the Federal Government can pass laws that overrule that. And we DO have those laws. I'll look them up later. The fraud assertion is largely a given. The threat to collude, to have the states reject the results...that's beyond terrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 I expect Trump to win the in-person voting by a large enough margin for him to declare victory. Then mail-in ballots will roll in over the next several days reversing that outcome. Then cries of foul play and a legal kerfuffle the likes of which we have never seen. I don't think either side will accept the election outcome regardless of who wins. Sociotard and assault 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 12 hours ago, ScottishFox said: Then cries of foul play and a legal kerfuffle the likes of which we have never seen. I don't think either side will accept the election outcome regardless of who wins. meh, this rant serves no purpose. deleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 More than 200 retired generals, admirals endorse Biden, including some who served under Trump Oh no! It's the Deep State! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 "Our allies no longer trust or respect us, and our enemies no longer fear us," the former officers and officials wrote in a letter released Thursday. I can't think of a more damning condemnation coming from military men. Pariah, Matt the Bruins and Pattern Ghost 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 I'd go further, right now, our allies are RIGHT to not trust us, or at least our government. I don't think they should ignore everything that comes out an American's official's mouth, but I certainly find it shameful that right now our best boast is "At least we're not Russia or China". If Trump gets another four years, I advise the EU to prepare a replacement for NATO as best they can because I don't think it will last. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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