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10 hours ago, TrickstaPriest said:

Literally was comparing Trump's 'run america like a business' to my last job to a friend.  A friend who was fired for disagreeing with the boss from that job.

 

People like Trump because he's destroying what they view as the current corrupt government.  Trump is really good at destroying things.

 

But it's really easy to destroy things.  That's not an exceptional or valuable quality.

 

It's easy to end up with an even more corrupt government by destroying a current government.  Literally happens all the time...

 

When people say “run America like a business,” — and I saw another post on this but was too tired to reply — they do not mean ‘yell at people because they didn’t do their job.’ That’s not how you run a business. A business is about the people in it. Those of us who want to see America run like a business mean things more like this:

 

* Quarterly & Annual targets, with the appropriate accountability

* SMART goals

* Reasonable transparency for our taxes

* The construction of a new, uniquely American culture; Amazon holds people accountable, we should as well

 

And so on. If there’s yelling, that’s because the manager is a [redacted], because if that [redacted] happened in my work place? Pfft. It would be a call to HR and a bunch of meetings and suddenly I’d have a new manager.  Running America like a business means proper accounting of resources, resource management, goals, stretch goals, etc. Stop wasteful spending, cut budgets to force people to find new solutions, etc. 

 

I recognize that this is not a broad opinion, it could just be mine and that of a few people, but I did want to debunk the difference between “managing a store,” which has its own challenges, and the actual requirements of running and growing a full business.

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The legend lives on from the Apprentice on down of the big oompaloompa called Donnie The Donnie, it is said, always has some bed head and he's friends with a loon named Giulani Wit

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13 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said:

Donald Trump doesn't run America like a business. He runs it like a Mafia territory.

 

I dunno.  Given his track record of bankruptcies and unwise financial decisions, he may just be running America like he runs his own business.  Which is a very scary prospect.

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3 hours ago, Old Man said:

 

Trump is already stating he won't go along with any debate rule changes.  I'm trying to decide whether this is a bad thing or not.

 

 

This should allow Biden to take a higher ground.  If the people trying to set up the debate suggest rules changes, figure Biden will aprrove.  If Trump rejects, Biden can pull out.  Sure, Trump will say it's out of fear, but Biden can also say Trump refuses to debate.  Seems a wash.

 

But that's the way this entire campaign season has been.  Pointless.  SCREAMING.  CONSTANT.  Since there were so few primaries, everyone and their cousin has all their money to blow in the very narrow time window.  I can't *begin* to describe how nauseated I am by both sides...yeah, both.  The Republican ads are worse around here, but I'm also predisposed to detest them.  But the Democratic ads have their fair share of slimery.  I also figure I don't need to describe it, not to a lot of us here.

 

If you want to know why I think there's no hope for this country, just listen to the ads.  Reconciliation isn't going to happen when there is this degree of demonization.

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That’s a fair point, there has been so much noise and it’s deafening, drowning out most positivity and hope. It really does a disservice to the whole process and pollutes the discourse. To be honest, there may not be a reconciliation between the “sides” but I also don’t believe that there needs to be one. Based on the actions and the ideas that I’m seeing there’s a group of people who believe that the function of government is primarily the protection of property, and another group who believe that the goal should be the common interest. Simply put, we need both to function as a society and refusing to recognize the merits of either defeats the whole point of the exercise. 

 

But that’s all beside the point. I believe that people matter, and I believe that all citizens deserve to be represented by people who believe that they matter. No matter where on the divide you fall, each and every one of us deserve to be treated with respect by our government. We deserve to be told the truth by people we have elected to be our agents. We deserve to have the services we pay for operate at a functional level. We deserve to be able to trust that our representatives are working in our best interests, no matter where they fall ideologically. And for me personally, even if I get nauseated, I’m going to vote for the person who can uphold that basic agreement. The only way to guarantee this new status quo continues — i.e., the venomous horror we’re all witnessing —  is to refuse to believe that an alternative can exist.

 

And an alternative can exist, but it only comes to fruition if we all vote in the people who we believe are going to balance what can be competing interests, but who, above all else, see the needs and inherent value of the people first. I have no issue with “conservatism,” i.e., the value of institutions, but what seems to be happening is that rather than act as agents for the people, but for themselves. As an example, defunding the Post Office is not in the public interest. It only serves a very small group under very unique circumstances.

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1 hour ago, Thia Halmades said:

 

Mafia had a code, honor, all kinds of things. He runs it like the idea he has of how the Mafia works based on a show he watched once.

 

Don't romanticize them. That's a pop-culture image they themselves like to spread, but ultimately their behavior is governed by greed and fear, like Trump.

 

1 hour ago, BoloOfEarth said:

 

I dunno.  Given his track record of bankruptcies and unwise financial decisions, he may just be running America like he runs his own business.  Which is a very scary prospect.

 

Absolutely. The biggest takeaway from Trump's leaked taxes isn't that he paid so little. He paid so little because his businesses have been bleeding money for years. Trump is heavily in debt, as in hundreds of millions of dollars in loans. Not only does this highlight his failure as a businessman, it makes him extremely vulnerable to outside coercion. And most of those loans are coming due in the next few years. If he's still President then, he'll have all of America for collateral.

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30 minutes ago, archer said:

Trump and wife test positive for covid-19

 

 

Whoa!!!

Something like this requires confirmation.  SO...

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/hope-hicks-positive-coronavirus/index.html

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/president-trump-lady-test-positive-covid-19/story?id=73380448

And Trump himself tweeted it.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, unclevlad said:

 

Well, I was watching TV coverage away from my keyboard so I ran over quickly to update the thread.

 

If it's any consolation, I beat out NBC TV news by two minutes.

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8 minutes ago, archer said:

 

Well, I was watching TV coverage away from my keyboard so I ran over quickly to update the thread.

 

If it's any consolation, I beat out NBC TV news by two minutes.

 

Didn't mean it as criticism.  You aren't the type to post this if you didn't have legit sources.  I figured I'd drop references.  I didn't include Fox only because they didn't have it up just then.  (They do now.)  And, yes, I am at the point that I want to see confirmation about anything like this.

 

Disillusioned, much?

'scuse me, my bedtime nip is demanding my attention.

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19 minutes ago, unclevlad said:

 

Didn't mean it as criticism.  You aren't the type to post this if you didn't have legit sources.  I figured I'd drop references.  I didn't include Fox only because they didn't have it up just then.  (They do now.)  And, yes, I am at the point that I want to see confirmation about anything like this.

 

Disillusioned, much?

 

 

That's not disillusion.  This is disillusion: What if he doesn't actually have covid, but needs an excuse to get out of the next two debates without looking like a coward?  There's almost no way he makes the 10/15 debate now, and an extra safe three week quarantine would get him past the 10/22 debate.  Then he magically reemerges on 10/23, hale and hearty (ischemic tremor notwithstanding), inspiring his fans just in time to go to the polls.

 

Anyway, tinfoil hat off.  Get that man some hydroxychloroquine, stat!

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58 minutes ago, unclevlad said:

 

Didn't mean it as criticism.  You aren't the type to post this if you didn't have legit sources.  I figured I'd drop references.  I didn't include Fox only because they didn't have it up just then.  (They do now.)  And, yes, I am at the point that I want to see confirmation about anything like this.

 

 

No problem. I used to have the bad habit of beating out national news services to publication.

 

I'd already hurried across the house and was at my keyboard before it really hit me that I didn't blog anymore and didn't have to write a story. :D 

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In this day and age, surely they can do the debate remotely. We're all doing a lot of stuff that way right now. The dual podiums look very theatrical, but they aren't necessary. And that would give the moderator a mute button. ;)

 

I'd love to see Trump try to excuse his way out of that. :snicker:

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2 hours ago, Lord Liaden said:

I feel like I should be a better human being, and care about that. But at this point I just can't.

Galatians 6: 7-9

 

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

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