Badger Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 I kind of see it as his application for the position of Fox News commentator. Don't think they'd have him after that announcement a few months ago. (which is why I say Kobayashi Maru.) Or rather, most conservatives see that press conference back then as him spending 5 minutes explaining why Clinton should be prosecuted, and then say she wont be prosecuted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Didn't know his boss told him not to say anything. Guess we'll find out how tolerant his boss is shortly. I think at this point, both parties want to string him up. Probably before this. Maybe he just said the heck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/doj-objected-fbi-disclosure-steps-clinton-probe-sources/story%3fid=43158700?client=ms-android-verizon http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/politics/fbi-reviewing-new-emails-in-clinton-probe-director-tells-senate-judiciary-committee/index.html They're reporting the AG/DOJ told him to stand down. Guess he felt he didn't have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Didn't know his boss told him not to say anything. Guess we'll find out how tolerant his boss is shortly. I think at this point, both parties want to string him up. Probably before this. Maybe he just said the heck with it. Maybe, he wanted to unite the country with its hatred for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 It's a no win situation. If they announce now, they're trying to torpedo Hillary. If they wait until after the election, they'll be accused of trying to protect her. Here's the thing: They have to make the announcement at some point. Only if they found something actionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 So the FBI doesn't even have a warrant to read Abedin's emails on Weiner's laptop and may not have probable cause to get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Only if they found something actionable. Even if so, I doubt it would ultimately matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 That is the only thing that made me ever consider Trump, for even 10 seconds. The idea of a liberal Supreme Court for the rest of my life, gives a feeling of hopeless. (then again the only Supreme Court justice I actually like is Kennedy aka the only one capable of independent thought-conservative or liberal) Well, now you know how I feel, after 3 decades of a conservative Court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Well, now you know how I feel, after 3 decades of a conservative Court. I'd settle for just one decade of an impartial court. DasBroot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Well, now you know how I feel, after 3 decades of a conservative Court. Well, I say it has been conservative-ish, hard to say a 5-4 court is a heavy leaner, especially when you have an independent like Kennedy. If they get to put in 3, it'll tip like a seesaw with a fat kid. If it was 5-4 either way, you can always hope one lone wolf goes rogue now and then. Edit: I do agree the conservatives should have been the happy side many more times on rulings than not in those decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 So the FBI doesn't even have a warrant to read Abedin's emails on Weiner's laptop and may not have probable cause to get one. I had heard that too. How would they get PC if they didn't have it? They need to check if Weiner's weiner is in pictures on her account? CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 It was a piece of hardware shared by husband and wife. They had a warrant to look at the husband's stuff, but not one to look at the wive's material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 RPG net is saying they have known about this for three weeks CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Comey has been charged with an egregious violation of the Hatch Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I had heard that too. How would they get PC if they didn't have it? They need to check if Weiner's weiner is in pictures on her account? CES The Weinermobile is probably on everyone's account by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolgroth Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Comey has been charged with an egregious violation of the Hatch Act. Has he actually been charged? The last I read, Harry Reid suggested that he may have violated the Hatch Act. That's a serious accusation on Reid's part but not tantamount to being charged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lectryk Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 This says a complaint was filed against Comey (by a guy who worked for W and supported Jeb). http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/opinion/on-clinton-emails-did-the-fbi-director-abuse-his-power.html?_r=0 The KOS' take (some rehashing): http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/30/1588609/-Former-Bush-Ethics-Head-Files-Complaint-Against-Comey-Alleging-Potential-Violations-Of-Hatch-Act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Comey needs to provide some measure of clarification--or at least to state what this is NOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I kind of hope this is only Reid doing his typical bully imitation. Looking at the Hatch Act, and doing my best to be impartial, charging Comey without extremely hard evidence will cause more harm than good. From my perspective, it seems that it could potentially neuter the FBI in investigating illegal political doings (which living in the real world should be obvious something that we definitely do not want) and completely past a certain point in an election year. I doubt that would be a good thing. At the very least a campaigning politicians would have free reign to cry Hatch Act with any investigation on them in an election year. Not sure that best response to opening a can of worms, is to open a bigger can of worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Comey needs to provide some measure of clarification--or at least to state what this is NOT. That would indeed be nice. But, Comey has proven clarifying himself isn't a strong suit for him. In 2016, he seems he is trying to straddle the political fence, and now he is about to get impaled testicle first. Edit: Giving Comey the biggest benefit of the doubt I possibly can. He has appeared twice in less than 6 months, to seem to be an exceptionally weak leader (and if either of the allegations I seem to be hearing of him is true at all, months ago caving into pressure to make the scandal go away. Or the current one pressured by his subordinates to bring it back. Then a good case could be made he is also a spineless leader. At the very least he is shown t be inadequate for the job at hand at every turn.). Perhaps I am being harsh, but he is in that Kobayashi Maru I mentioned and it is nearly all of his own making. Note: In sports, a coach who loses respect from both his GM and players is soon to be fired (Browns always being the exception) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I kind of hope this is only Reid doing his typical bully imitation. Looking at the Hatch Act, and doing my best to be impartial, charging Comey without extremely hard evidence will cause more harm than good. From my perspective, it seems that it could potentially neuter the FBI in investigating illegal political doings (which living in the real world should be obvious something that we definitely do not want) and completely past a certain point in an election year. I doubt that would be a good thing. At the very least a campaigning politicians would have free reign to cry Hatch Act with any investigation on them in an election year. Not sure that best response to opening a can of worms, is to open a bigger can of worms. Nope, it's to go fishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 This says a complaint was filed against Comey (by a guy who worked for W and supported Jeb). http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/opinion/on-clinton-emails-did-the-fbi-director-abuse-his-power.html?_r=0 The KOS' take (some rehashing): http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/30/1588609/-Former-Bush-Ethics-Head-Files-Complaint-Against-Comey-Alleging-Potential-Violations-Of-Hatch-Act I find it interesting that in Painter's own op-ed piece, he mentions: "(For the sake of full disclosure, in this election I have supported Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, John Kasich and Hillary Clinton for president, in that order.)" Whereas the KOS article says, "Painter, a former George W. Bush, Marco Rubio and John Kasich supporter..." I guess Hillary didn't make the cut there. Well, neither did Jeb, but leaving him out doesn't really change the implications of that statement. Leaving her out does, at least IMO. (For the sake of full disclosure, I'm not a Trump nor a Clinton supporter, nor am I a registered Republican or Democrat. I'll probably vote for Hillary because I'd rather chew tinfoil while diving naked into a pool filled with razor blades than take a chance on Trump getting in the White House.) I just find it interesting how people on both sides of the fence subtly twist things to fit their narratives. gewing and Nolgroth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Trump owns a server that does nothing but communicate with Moscow's Alfa Bank BoloOfEarth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 A handy voter guide: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/10/clinton_vs_trump_whose_crimes_are_worse.html DasBroot, aylwin13 and tkdguy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 I'm sure there are a few more things that could be on Hillary's list, but... damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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