unclevlad Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 48 minutes ago, Starlord said: Trump is now known as 'White House Karen' on Twitter Scroll on down about halfway, there's a great meme and nickname...Anita Recount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 Is anyone even slightly surprised that Trump fired his election cybersecurity head for stating the election was secure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Pariah said: Russian bounties on American soldiers? 3 hours ago, Grailknight said: The abandonment of the Kurds is probably a better bet. Again, we're talking about the legal definition of treason. Yes, it can be argued that not putting pressure on the Russians to drop bounties put American soldiers at greater risk, and abandoning the Kurds threatens US security and global interests. Personally I agree with both arguments. But in neither case did Trump actively give aid or comfort to an enemy of the United States. We'd like to stretch that definition to cover acts we consider unethical and immoral; but pushing the boundaries of the law to get his way is just what Donald Trump has done. That's not a precedent America can afford to nurture. In a nation of laws, what the law actually says is more important than what we want it to say. If we think it should be changed we pressure our legislators to change it. And if we don't believe we can do that, we officially give up on the ideal of a nation of laws. DShomshak, Lee and TrickstaPriest 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, unclevlad said: Is anyone even slightly surprised that Trump fired his election cybersecurity head for stating the election was secure? Not I. I was especially not surprised that the firing occurred via Twitter. Stay classy, Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 Wasn't there something about the super-fast abandonment of that US military base in Syria that allowed all kinds of sensitive information and equipment to fall into the hands of advancing Russian forces a few hours later rather than properly packing up and removing everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Matt the Bruins said: Wasn't there something about the super-fast abandonment of that US military base in Syria that allowed all kinds of sensitive information and equipment to fall into the hands of advancing Russian forces a few hours later rather than properly packing up and removing everything? I think it was Turkish. But yes, this was part and parcel to the clustereff that was the Kurd events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Old Man said: Not I. I was especially not surprised that the firing occurred via Twitter. Stay classy, Trump. If I were that guy, I'd show up to work tomorrow morning like normal. If someone questioned me, I'd point to the federal court filing by the Justice Department where the administration admitted that Trump's tweets should not be taken literally as government policy. Matt the Bruins, Old Man, Pariah and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, archer said: If I were that guy, I'd show up to work tomorrow morning like normal. If someone questioned me, I'd point to the federal court filing by the Justice Department where the administration admitted that Trump's tweets should not be taken literally as government policy. I would absolutely do this. aylwin13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 22 hours ago, archer said: Maybe it's too early to seriously talk about the Biden agenda but obviously healthcare is going to be in there somewhere. Bernie pushes for fully nationalized healthcare. Most progressives are pushing for "Medicare for All" while not being on Medicare themselves and realizing just how much Medicare sucks. Given the choice between only those two options, I'd go for nationalized healthcare every time. However, I ran across this interesting article about how the European countries which have private insurance manage to avoid a lot of the problems which the US has with its system for private insurance. https://getpocket.com/explore/item/why-europeans-don-t-get-huge-medical-bills?utm_source=pocket-newtab I am again reminded of a series NPR did during the debates over the ACA, comparing the health insurance systems of various countries (IIRC, US, Canada, UK, Germany, Switzerland and Japan). Quite diverse; all gavbe better outcomes at lower cost than US. It's not that single-payer (or any other) is clearly and uniquely "best": It's that we in the US must be doing something uniquely wrong. (And perhaps more than one something.) Dean Shomshak Lee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 50 minutes ago, DShomshak said: I am again reminded of a series NPR did during the debates over the ACA, comparing the health insurance systems of various countries (IIRC, US, Canada, UK, Germany, Switzerland and Japan). Quite diverse; all gavbe better outcomes at lower cost than US. It's not that single-payer (or any other) is clearly and uniquely "best": It's that we in the US must be doing something uniquely wrong. (And perhaps more than one something.) Dean Shomshak Several things, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 For your amusement, and if you still have articles left (or a subscription):https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/opinion/trump-barr-giulianni-worst.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage The head of the GSA came from nowhere to come in third. Quite the feat for someone probably none of us knew existed 2 weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 hours ago, unclevlad said: For your amusement, and if you still have articles left (or a subscription):https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/opinion/trump-barr-giulianni-worst.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage The head of the GSA came from nowhere to come in third. Quite the feat for someone probably none of us knew existed 2 weeks ago. Here’s what happened when Rudolph Giuliani made his first appearance in federal court in nearly three decades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 Politics, like 24 hour cable news, is a completely broken business. The American people have allowed this. Ideological dogma, confirmation bias, and rabid tribal fanaticism have replaced reason, respect and our sense of 'true brotherhood'. Pariah, tkdguy and TrickstaPriest 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Starlord said: Here’s what happened when Rudolph Giuliani made his first appearance in federal court in nearly three decades I kind of want to buy the Judge a beer because he has to put up with this #$#$ TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 https://www.thefarside.com/new-stuff/174/trump-tear-exhibit aylwin13 and Old Man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Starlord said: Here’s what happened when Rudolph Giuliani made his first appearance in federal court in nearly three decades Not to cut Rudy any slack for his obvious incompetence, but in the interest of fairness it should be noted that all he had to work with is the same BS that Trump's lawyers have seen thrown out of almost every court it's been presented. The suits themselves are laughable from a legal standpoint. I've come to believe Trump gets along with Giuliani because they both shovel BS with equal gusto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Starlord said: Here’s what happened when Rudolph Giuliani made his first appearance in federal court in nearly three decades I tried to read that article, and I had to give up after two minutes because the stupid was too painful. And I spend most of my days with teenagers. Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Starlord said: Here’s what happened when Rudolph Giuliani made his first appearance in federal court in nearly three decades MSN gave a gentle, incomplete version of the story. The Daily Mail gave more detail and gave enough context to show just how stupid Rudy's performance was. He's kind of like the grandpa you have to sit down and have The Talk with about how he has to give up his driver's license because he can't see to drive and isn't aware of his surroundings anymore. But this is someone needing to talk to Rudy about giving up his law license because he can't remember the judge's name or enough details about the case he's supposed to be arguing in order to be able to present it. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 8:20 AM, Hermit said: Some logical points, but I think many Americans are sick of the two justice system... and practical or not, states still being able to make moves or not, there is something in the national character that would take another shot of cynicism like poison in a glass if we just keep admitting that those in power never have to play by the rules like those who don't. I'm not for the pardon. But yes it will cause backlash Everyone needs to be reminded that not even the president is above the law, so I am also against the pardon. On 11/18/2020 at 8:38 AM, Starlord said: Trump is now known as 'White House Karen' on Twitter During one of my shifts sending text messages, one of my teammates shared a response about getting rid of "Cinnamon Hitler and the rest." Why didn't I ever get any responses like that? On 11/18/2020 at 8:57 AM, Cancer said: Frankly, I am waiting to see just how much of the Führerbunker scenario plays out in the coming weeks. I'm tired of this farce already. I think it's time for legal action to try and put an end to the shenanigans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 Interesting op-ed piece in the LA Times: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-11-15/donald-trump-election-delusions-autocrats This one's more worrisome. https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/what-matters-november-18/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 White House Karen Will Try To Convince State Republicans to Change Electoral College Rules to Win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to the Dark Side." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, Starlord said: White House Karen Will Try To Convince State Republicans to Change Electoral College Rules to Win Pretty much what I expected. Who needs voting, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, TrickstaPriest said: Pretty much what I expected. Who needs voting, anyway? Which was meant as a joke, of course, but its significance at a personal level..why should I vote when this BS is going on...isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 I wish we could remove him from office already. I know it would require Pence to play ball, so that won't happen. Can't we impeach him again, this time for obstruction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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