Old Man Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: How long do you think until Congress looks like the Taiwanese Parliament? Probably a bad idea to bring a water balloon to a gunfight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, Old Man said: Probably a bad idea to bring a water balloon to a gunfight. That depends on what it's actually filled with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 It's also assuming that members of Congress are clever enough to smuggle a gun past metal detectors, and then have enough guts to actually shoot someone, rather than just posture and brag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Members of Congress are already bringing guns in pst metal detectors. Members of Congress actively participated in a coup attempt. Believe me, I wish it was just bare knuckles and water balloons. Sociotard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 If you're referring to Rep. Andy Harris allegedly trying to bring his gun onto the House floor a week ago, he reportedly was caught by the metal detectors and turned back. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/capitol-police-probing-whether-gop-rep-andy-harris-tried-bring-n1255237 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Well, maybe there is hope after all... Rep. Burgess Owens apologizes to ‘liberals,’ says he accepts Biden as president TrickstaPriest and Hermit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Ohio ‘Militia’ Members Started Planning Capitol Violence in November, Prosecutors Say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: If you're referring to Rep. Andy Harris allegedly trying to bring his gun onto the House floor a week ago, he reportedly was caught by the metal detectors and turned back. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/capitol-police-probing-whether-gop-rep-andy-harris-tried-bring-n1255237 Like it isn't totally f__ed up that we have to have metal detectors around the chamber in the first place. To stop GOP congresspeople. But I was mainly referring to the fact that those GOP congresspeople wander around the rest of the Capitol with guns. Like Mr. Harris in the linked article. Lee and Lord Liaden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 unclevlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Good reminders of how we interacted with Russia... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 "The Capitol Hill attack was Antifa/Anti-trump" people is already becoming a commonplace thing I'm seeing On top of that, I'm seeing people saying that Biden should apologize for the 44k+ people who've died because of coronavirus more often than not. Food for thought. /s I'm honestly a little relieved my trump-loving close family member doesn't think the Capitol Hill riot was a false flag operation Dr. MID-Nite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Once people have embraced an initial lie, when faced with contradictions most will invent bigger and bigger lies to rationalize their belief, rather than admit to themselves they were duped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Yesterday's ep of "The Daily" NYTimes podcast gave a (perhaps surprisingly) empathetic look at how QAnon believers are dealing with Trump's departure. The QAnon Conspiracy Theory is Proved ... - The New York Times www.nytimes.com/2021/01/29/podcasts/the-daily/... This is The Daily. Today, my colleague Kevin Roose on what happens to a conspiracy theory and its followers when it’s proven wrong. archived recording (qanon believer 5) Ranxerox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Republicans Can’t Believe Democrats Don’t Want to Work With Them Just Because of the Guns and the Death Threats and the Crackpot Conspiracy Theories Old Man and TrickstaPriest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 What Do We Do With Trump’s Lackeys and Enablers Now? Germany has an answer. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Cygnia said: What Do We Do With Trump’s Lackeys and Enablers Now? Germany has an answer. Boy howdy, the US sure never learned these ;lessons. I remember after Saddam Hussein's overthrow, the American campaign of "debaathification" that, so I am told, turned hundreds of thousands of Iraqi soldiers into fiercely dedicated insurgents and left occupied Iraq with no home-grown military to fight them. Which then resulted in a half-assed force that folded like a cheap suit against ISIS. That Puritan streak, to cast out the unrighteous no matter the cost -- it's rarely don us good. Dean Shomshak TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Trump's impeachment defense team leaves less than two weeks before trial Reportedly over creative differences. https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/30/politics/butch-bowers-deborah-barbier-trump-impeachment-team/index.html Trump had a large amount of trouble finding anyone at all to represent him. Now he drove these people off. Technically, the accused in an impeachment trial isn't entitled to court-appointed legal representation because what's happening isn't part of the judicial system. It'll be interesting if Trump ends up not having a legal team. Senator Cruz volunteered to represent Trump's electoral cases in from of the Supreme Court. Maybe he can take over. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 If Cruz is as competent a trial attorney as he is everything else he does, I would welcome that. aylwin13, Matt the Bruins and Chris Goodwin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 aylwin13, Sociotard, Grailknight and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lectryk Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: If Cruz is as competent a trial attorney as he is everything else he does, I would welcome that. Cruz and Graham, the dream team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 Trump's top hiring criterion appears to be sycophantism, so I could see him going for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Cygnia said: It’s hard to overstate how unusual a deauthorization like this is. It may be the only time it has ever happened. Crisis response is most of the reason the National Guard even exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 <shakes head in amazement> Trump insisted that the defense strategy was simply regurgitate the whole "election was stolen" story. Yeah...on that basis, the surprise is if there's *any* attorneys left on his team. Other than Rudy, maybe. It probably won't matter. In a normal criminal trial...on that 'defense' it'd be a trivial conviction, as none of the prosecution's assertions would be challenged at all. But it's not a normal trial, and the 'jury' is about as anti-impartial as possible. Who knows, maybe details like that insane "stand down" order...from a total Trump lackey...will sway people. Probably not enough. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, unclevlad said: It probably won't matter. In a normal criminal trial...on that 'defense' it'd be a trivial conviction, as none of the prosecution's assertions would be challenged at all. But it's not a normal trial, and the 'jury' is about as anti-impartial as possible. Who knows, maybe details like that insane "stand down" order...from a total Trump lackey...will sway people. Probably not enough. That's literally the problem. In any other situation he'd be a laughing stock. But because the party behind him has literally abandoned any pretense of trying to run this country as anything more than a mono-party that shuts down everything not on their agenda, they are utterly fine with enabling him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 I wish there was enough time to wait on this, to see if the anti-Trump faction can coalesce and possibly counterbalance the Trumpists. But overall, I do think this is best done now rather than some months from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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