Lord Liaden Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 When many American urban police departments deliberately recruit thugs, it shouldn't be surprising when they act like thugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, Cancer said: If that stands up, that makes it capital in some jurisdictions. Yes, that's premeditation now, IF that tweet is accurate. That absolutely can't be assumed, and while I can find social media trash, I can't find a legitimate report about it. But I'm not trying all that hard either. That said, Haley was also accused of beating a prisoner when he was a corrections officer. There was a lawsuit but it was dismissed on procedural grounds, it seems. Plus, it disturbs me that a corrections officer becomes a police officer...then gets onto a unit like this. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Did you ever watch the pilot episode for the new Hawaii Five-Oh? In it the governor of Hawaii decides to a create a police unit unhampered by things that get in the way of results. No red tape, no rules, no respect for civil rights. Just kicking ass and naming names. Getting the bad guys no matter what it takes. In short an adolescent power fantasy that only a moron who confuses real life with Mel Gibson movies would think would produce good results if they tried it in real life. Newsflash. People try it in real life. They take the most aggressive cops, give them a badass backronym like SCORPION or STRESS, tell them they’re “elite” even though they actually have no special training just special latitude. They encourage the unit to prioritise maximizing the number of suspects they take down over worrying about proper procedure, put them on constant patrol in the most crime ridden areas, encourage them to think of everyone around them not as people to be protected but enemies to be suppressed and make maximizing their number of busts per week the priority while ignoring the misconduct complaints. And then wait for the inevitable results. Units like these don't just suffer from a lack of transparency and use tactics likely to spawn violence. Their rhetoric attracts "police officers who enjoy being feared," Balko notes, and it positions these officers as both elite and beyond the normal rules. There are all sorts of horror stories about similar units, such as Detroit's STRESS unit ("Over a two-year period, the units killed at least 22 people, almost all of them Black") or Los Angeles' CRASH unit ("More than 70 officers were implicated in planting guns and drug evidence, selling narcotics themselves and shooting and beating people without provocation"). https://reason.com/2023/01/30/the-most-popular-police-reforms-cant-stop-the-next-tyre-nichols-from-being-killed-heres-what-might/ TrickstaPriest and Lawnmower Boy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 I thought this was fascinating… Tom Cowan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Because of Vladimir Putin, the Russian economy has been devastated. The Russian military has been publicly humiliated and critically degraded. Russia's global reputation and influence have been cut to shreds. Russian society is being driven by state-sponsored paranoia and repression. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Russia's best and brightest have fled the country. A "lost generation" of young Russians is being chewed up in a pointless war. It will take generations before all this damage is healed, if it ever is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 And Putin doesn't care. It was never about Russia. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Clonus said: https://reason.com/2023/01/30/the-most-popular-police-reforms-cant-stop-the-next-tyre-nichols-from-being-killed-heres-what-might/ Still reading the whole story but there's a very early comment that's notable: the National Fraternal Order of Police is NOT defending the officers. QUITE the opposite, in fact. From The Hill: Quote The nation’s largest law enforcement organization spoke out on Friday against the “brutal assault” of 29-year-old Tyre Nichols, who was fatally injured during a traffic stop by Memphis police earlier this month. “The event as described to us does not constitute legitimate police work or a traffic stop gone wrong,” Patrick Yoes, the national president of the Fraternal Order of Police, said in a statement. “This is a criminal assault under the pretext of law.” One of the points in the article is big, to me. From the Reason story: Quote Stop buying police propaganda. The initial Memphis Police Department statement about Nichols' death bears little resemblance to the horror and brutality that five officers actually visited upon him. Here's how the department described the situation at first: "a confrontation occurred," and "afterward, the suspect complained of having a shortness of breath." Yeah, we do hear this regularly. People are lying...many people in this case. (A question in my mind is whether the EMTs feared reprisal if they said anything.) It's a repeating pattern...downplay, downplay, downplay until it explodes in your face. The story indicts the media too; they're not critical enough, too often. There have to be red flags here...the duration of the event feels like the first one. The timeline includes a 3 minute period after the police caught up to Nichols, where they beat on him for 3 minutes. That is a LONG time. There's about a 20 minute interval before he's treated. Got to think that's another flag. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Quote Still reading the whole story but there's a very early comment that's notable: the National Fraternal Order of Police is NOT defending the officers. QUITE the opposite, in fact. IS that because they're actually disgusted or because these (Black) officers blatantly got caught? GM Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 U.S. Rep. Santos to recuse himself from committee assignments It's a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 56 minutes ago, Logan D. Hurricanes said: U.S. Rep. Santos to recuse himself from committee assignments It's a start. He's lying. TrickstaPriest, Cygnia, Lord Liaden and 3 others 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Yeah. I'll believe it when it happens... and only for as long as it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 George Santos will not serve on any committees. However, Anthony Devolder, Anthony Zabrovsky, and Kitara Ravache will. aylwin13, Ranxerox and GM Joe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Besides, it means he gets the privileges, and doesn't have to do much work. One could argue that NOT serving on committees means he's derelict in representing his district, but there's no mechanism to recall him, so he's nothing more than a placeholder in any case. There is 0 chance he'll get Party support in '24; likely very little chance he can beat almost any primary challenger, and probably could only beat a really bad Democratic candidate. Wait a sec. I take that back. Just looked up the 3 names Bolo mentioned. 0 chance of support. Lucky to receive 1% in the primary. Lucky to receive 5% against ANY Democrat, no matter how liberal. But, you know why he's not resigning. These are likely the last paychecks he's *ever* going to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Lawyers Ask Why the One White Cop in the Tyre Nichols Case Escaped Termination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 The cynic in me says the headline provides the answer to the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 That’s not cynicism, that’s realism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Imagine my surprise. Republicans vote to remove Rep. Ilhan Omar from the Foreign Affairs Committee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 That's all anyone can do, as any surprise here would be entirely imaginary. These are the House Republicans, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Capitol Rioter Breaks Down Crying After Receiving 68-Month Prison Sentence Old Man, Pariah, Cygnia and 2 others 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 "I let my emotions take control" Dude, when you drive to DC, then spray police officers with your chemicals as you try to over throw a lawful election, then BOAST about it later, this wasn't just some slip of temper. It's premeditated, and as a Ex Marine, you're an Oathbreaker and a damned traitor. I'm all for mercy in many cases, but in this situation? Zero sympathy. aylwin13, Old Man, Lord Liaden and 9 others 8 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Can I get an Amen from the Congregation for Brother Hermit!!! aylwin13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 37 minutes ago, wcw43921 said: Capitol Rioter Breaks Down Crying After Receiving 68-Month Prison Sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 47 minutes ago, wcw43921 said: Capitol Rioter Breaks Down Crying After Receiving 68-Month Prison Sentence I nominate this guy as the poster child for "F*** Around, Find Out". Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 I'm not saying this to try to exonerate the guy, but what I'd love to know is what he was thinking throughout 2020? What led to this, why did he do it, how did he become so willfully blind to the nature of what he was doing? What can be done to mitigate it from happening again?? Maybe nothing. If the root causes lie in the decades-long effort to marginalize and dehumanize the "Liberal Establishment"...probably nothing because it's a practical impossibility to muzzle the vicious media elements who create this. But if we can't identify the causes of radicalization, we can't even start to address them. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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